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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would work until the polar bear population collapses in a couple generations due to inbreeding.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And once they eat all the penguins and starve

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

St. Matthew Island with polar bears instead of reindeer.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It depends on the goal. For example it'd work if you want to render every penguin species endangered or worse.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

4 million buy a freight boat

I work in supply chain but not a complete expert but the smallest cheapest working order freight ship I can find for sale is this one for $6MM, doesn't include licensing, crew, insurance and the dreyage/accessorial on live polar bears is gonna cost you big

https://petronav.net/container-ships-for-sale/container-adilia-i-ex-e-r-auckland

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does it really need to be a big container ship?

Didn't people transport stuff in smaller boats back in the day?

(You still make a valid point though)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Idk, polar bears are really heavy, and it takes a long time to get from one end of the planet to the other, so you want something secure to store the bears in. That means a bigger ship that can handle angry bears hurling themselves at the walls of their cage, because they will wake up during the journey, and they won't be happy.

For some reason, just imagining this is fucking hilarious. OOP on a shipping container being mutinied by dozens of feral pissed of polar bears

Just do it while they're hibernating 4head

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

they did specify freight! although getting The Cutty Sark back in working order is probably even more costly.

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 70 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Etymologists crying and shaking right now at the thought of Antarctica (meaning: without bears) gaining the one animal it's not supposed to have

[–] John_CalebBradberton@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This comment sent me down a rabbit hole. I had no idea the arctic is called that because it was the Greek for 'of the bear' because they used Ursa Major to guide them north. And the the arctic is the most northerly point.

Fucking wild. Mind blown.

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wdf how are we just learning this?! Can’t they teach it with the continent names??

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I read that as entomologist for a second and was really confused

Figured it had something to do with fleas

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying this will definitely reverse the Earth's polarity and doom all life on earth, but do we really want to take that chance?!

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Looks at earth

Well, it probably won't get much worse, and if it does it'll at least be interesting to see.

[–] mcqtom@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You may find you struggle with step 1.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been trying to do step one for years. But my bastard relatives refuse to die, and also refuse to be rich. Selfish I call it.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

Zoos tend to struggle with Step 7 and they have far better conditions than a beat up converted freighter

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Antarctica is generally colder than the Arctic. They would almost certainly be stuck along the coastlines of Antarctica like the penguins are, since the interior average temperatures rival the coldest ones ever recorded in the Arctic. They should be fine there, but then that means they have a very limited distribution and that penguins and seals consequently are always forced to share an environment with the polar bears. Because they're not used to the polar bears, their populations would likely be destroyed, leaving the polar bears to starve. Unlike in the Arctic, too, they would have nowhere to retreat if their food supply ran out. Outward is hundreds of kilometers of ocean, and inward is hundreds of kilometers of unsurvivable desert.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

they would have nowhere to retreat if their food supply ran out.

Um. Hello? There are scientists there.


Which means scientific papers, then tourists, then garbage and a symbiotic relationship, then the eventual domestication of polar bears.
Not, you know, the international scientific community treating scientists like cats.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Always wondered what it would have been like had we domesticated these things

These limbs were adapted for efficient long-distance pacing, rather than the explosive acceleration and high speed pursuits

Terrifying

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Then you have a penguin population crisis

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Tbf we already have that due to glacier melt

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I think the penguins would learn to just swim away, and the bears would starve since they would need to expend a lot of effort for a small bird versus the calorie-dense seals they're used to.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To be fair, some penguins aren't exactly small

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is a king penguin, not even the tallest subspecies (emperors are taller), but what you're looking at is an optical illusion because the penguin is much closer to the camera than the humans.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Damn, well I'm leaving it up anyways.

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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd say that if all you want to do is scare the shit out of some scientists in Antarctica you probably only need 1 polar bear

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah let's really confuse them. A lion.

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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

This reminds me of a friend that once proposed that if we really wanted to mess with Europe we could release a few packs of coyotes

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've recently learned that bears absolutely love cocaine. I'm sure that's relevant here somehow.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thats why polar bears have white coats

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought they had white coats because they take their methamphetamine production lab very seriously.

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I saw that documentary! That is boundary pushing science

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Neal Stephenson book, Termination Shock.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was really hoping OP wanted to drop the polar bears on a tropical island. For science.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago

only if you can find some weird magnetic anomaly and plane crash survivors

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[–] WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Would work until the penguin pop. is too small and then they start dying out again

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So then part of the program needs to be penguin Viagra to keep the numbers up

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Crude dark matter oil should do the job.

Penguin spanish fly.

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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Listen to this. How about we get a big boat, put the surviving penguins inside and ship them to the Artic!

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

would have to be quite a few bears to avoid heavy inbreeding

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