Personally, it kinda feels like a weight's been lifted. Now I can let go of the last shred of pretense of this country being anything other than a fat fucking joke.
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I'm now aware that the US contains 71 million fascists, racists, sexist, bigots, or a combination of all 4.
I'm with you there. I mean don't get me wrong, I sure do feel depressed and also morbidly curious/looking forward to the upcoming schadenfreude, but yeah just accepting that America is really a racist country and it's not going to change.
Just going to bide my time here since I'm too old to move even with a tech job and encourage my kid to go to college abroad.
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Just with a bit of estimation of the remaining 12% of votes uncounted, Trump is going to beat his 2020 vote record by a couple million, 81 million on the high end and maybe closer to 77 million on the low end. Unlikely, but possible he beats the 2020 all time record set by Biden. Definitely beats his 2020 numbers.
Kamala recently pulled ahead of Hillary's 65 million and Obama's 66 million, she's gonna end up around 71-74 million.
Kamala lost the Popular Vote. In fact she won some blue states by smaller margins then she lost some 'swing' states. Nevada might not even be tight enough to qualify as a swing state this election(needs to be 5% or less, Trump's currently winning by 5.2% meaning it wasn't a swing state), meanwhile Minnesota was won by 3, New Jersey by 4, New Hampshire by 4 and a half, and Maine might be lost we'll see, but those 4 were all swing states as the margin was less than 5%. New Mexico and Virginia came very close(and New Mexico would have been under 5 without RFK Jr dragging Trump down a point).
This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again. 2028 a tight election with a Democrat win could see them lose the PV and win the EC.
I had a ton of 2004 vibes from the start and it looks like that was correct. He is coming back to serve a second term, and YES, this time he won the national electiiion
This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again.
I don't agree with this. Republican majority States are still over represented. They just happened to also win the popular vote this time. The scenario of Democrats winning popular vote but not electoral is still more likely than it happening to Republicans
Nevada, a swing state(well, supposed to be one, it seemingly didn't get close enough to count) was won by bigger margins then states like Minnesota, or New Jersey(which was a 'safe blue' state). Illinois shifted massively and Harris only one it by 7.5 points. Virginia might be slightly sub-Hillary margins. New Mexico would have broken the swing state margin if not for RFK Jr.
If you gave Harris the minimal number of votes to flip the Swing States and nothing else, she'd win the EC, but not the Popular Vote due to Trump bumping up his margins everywhere and cutting into blue state margins
I was born just before Reagan was elected. Growing up, I got the mostly mistaken impression that America had some of its shit sorted from Vietnam, WWII, and all that 20th century turmoil. A period of stability. Upward trending society. Reagan undid a lot of that progress.
I've been watching this country die, slowly, for 45 years. This has been such a weird time to be alive. Fighting over scraps we volunteered to subsist on instead of overthrowing corrupt and cruel systems. We had periods we thought we were recovering. We had hope. I feel today like there isn't any left. Another four years of this, and it will be worse.
He struck a fatal blow. He used the tools of fear and rhetoric to do it. The weakness was there, the vulnerability. And here is the next evolution of American fear. We're a country voluntarily destroying itself out of fear of our imminent destruction. We had everything, and we gave it away.
We heard the call of the void, and we've answered.
We didnt give it away, we actively cast it into an active volcano
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Is there a lemmy community similar to this one that allows discussion posts? This community only allows link sharing.
/c/politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world is the way to link communities
I don't wanna hear any more moralizing and complaining from young leftists who can't even be bothered to perform their civic duty and vote. Shut the fuck up. What happens to Gaza in 2025 is on you, not Harris or the Democrats. And when you bitch about the genocide, remember that you facilitated it. You gave up your duty and gave Netanyahu exactly what he wanted, a clear path.
Blaming the left for the party going right, alienating the BIPOC and queers voters she swore to protect as she made friends with the people who want to harm BIPOC and queers.
Yeah it's our fault we weren't too confident in someone who uses minorities as useful idiot pawns for a game of Chess she doesn't wanna win.
I voted so I'm sure you won't mind hearing from this leftist. The problem isn't people who didn't vote. The problem is how the Democrats ran their campaign. They continue to punch left to try to appeal to moderate right-wingers who will never vote for them!
Instead, they should have punched right and tried to appeal to their base on the left. Even the "scary far left people" like me.
How to do that? They should have come out against the genocide in Israel instead of sicking the police on the fucking protesters.
But sure blame random individuals and what they chose to do. That sure sounds like The first step in fixing a large structural problem. /s
Not that it matters anyway, we won't be voting again not for real anyway.
Data is harmful and wrong. Russian bots use numbers in their programming!
Funny how you never blame moderate republicans who refused to switch their vote.
Maybe you should appeal to someone else next time?
You've learned nothing. If you can't win against a convicted felon and rapist with a national party infrastructure and billions in the bank you are a completely useless party.
Enjoy being relegated to the dust bin of history with the Wigs now that it's clear to even laymen that the king has no clothes.
To be fair those missing nearly 20 million voters who didn't show up weren't all or even mostly leftist and progressives. They're your bog standard Democrats and independents that fucked everyone over.
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Yeah it fucking is; they ran a fucking campaign that ignored the anti-genocide movement and instead decided they would win by campaigning with God damn Liz FUCKING Cheney and Laura FUCKING Bush instead of God damn Palestinian Americans and the anti-war movement. They wanted to win by going to the center, and they once again fucking LOST doing it, and it's somehow the God damn left's fault? Maybe, when your candidate loses with a strategy that the left tells you is a bad fucking idea, it's time for you to shut the fuck up, not them.
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Well good for him.
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