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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 193 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Now watch the effects ripple through the world. Now that a guy like him can be elected, politicians around the world will take note and use the same playbook. And it will probably work.

We already felt it in France with the 2016 US election, I can't imagine what the next decade will be like...

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As a Canadian who has watched our politics slowly try to mimic America's, I'm terrfieid. As it is our conservative provincial premier is ripping out bike lanes on city streets that have apartments being built right now that offers significantly more bike parking than car parking. Its backwards progress, a signifcant amount of the lanes were just built and now we gotta spend more money ripping them out because some fat conservative feels offended he is too unfit to cycle.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm fearful for my trans family and friends. Poilievre and Trump is a terrible combination. We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

First it was ontario is open for business, under pierre all of Canada will be "open for business". They would sell every ounce of Canadian fresh water to just to watch a dozen people get rich.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.

The fact that I am not the only one thinking this is encouraging. The fact that I had to scroll this far to see such a correct comment is very discouraging and worrisome.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We're getting it in Canada soon. Or in what's left of Canada once fascist USA has finished with us. We have the most extreme, reactionary, hateful Conservative leader ever, who openly panders to fascists, and he's some 20 points ahead of anyone else in the polls. My worst fear was him coming to power with Trump over the border, but that looks like what's going to happen. I do not understand people.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Germany will follow suit and we will get a conservative hardliner (and sexist boomer) with CDU's Merz who once voted to keep rape in a marriage legal. He will pave the way for the real fascists from the AfD, who will feel a lot more emboldened now.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I see everyone pointing the finger at the wrong place. We have two corrupt privately run parties. First past the Post literally puts us here. Places like Sweden won’t have this problem because they allow their politics to represent nuance rather than two corporate parties. Meanwhile, the UK which DOES have FPTP, is watching NHS get eroded by the same brand of neoliberalism that strip-mined the entire American economy.

sweden’s parliament a few years ago

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I fear we've lost the chance to move to something better than FPTP and WTA.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago

So as someone from Hungary, we've been speedrunning this shit, and the way out seems to be that you need to absolutely publicly destroy the current Democratic party, and get something, anything, that promises positive change as an alternative to fascism. I'm not saying necessarily third party, but at least an internal revolution in the DNC with the new people publicly disclaiming the current people and the status quo.

Trust me, you don't want 15 years of Trump like we had.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure it's going to feel a lot like the 1940s.

[–] goodthanks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Watch as Australia votes in a corrupt copper next year for prime minister. Making the same bullshit promises.

[–] coaxil@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Qld just shit the bed with the state election, that was bad enough, federal will be a shitshow :(

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Canada has one lined up too.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I swear to god if bolsonaro is elected again here I'm gonna blackout drink for the first time in a decade