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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's because it's not a clock, it's a private information stealing app disguised as a clock.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Well not necessarily, it could just require information like reading system time settings or location data, and then they have to have a policy explaining what and why to operate in some countries.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

If the information never leaves the device then it doesn't need a policy - privacy is not about what an app does in the device which never leaves the device hence never gets shared, it's about what it shares with a 3rd party.

A clock doesn't need to send system time settings information to a server since that serves no purpose for it - managing that is all done at the OS level and the app just uses what's there - and that's even more so for location data since things like determining the timezone are done by the user at the OS level, which will handle stuff like prompting the user to update the timezone if, for example, it detects the device is now in a different timezone (for example, after a long trip).

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 30 minutes ago

Early 2024 Google announced a privacy policy is required for all apps on the play store.

A privacy policy doesn't just say how data is transmitted and used it can also just say data is not transmitted or used for any purpose.

[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago

Short answer: Google Play

Long answer: Google Play and/or people with special requests like https://lemmy.ml/post/12332630

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

This one is my favorite clock app. Open source and you can customize it so that shaking or flipping over the phone stops alarm or snooze alarm

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've been annoyed by a minor change in the stock Samsung clock app for some time now. I just installed the Fossify one you linked.

Minor nitpick: 24h time doesn't start with a leading zero.

Everything else seems exactly how it should be.

Thanks.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] adsche@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

A pull request for that issue is open since April with no comments from the developers. Not a good sign :/

https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Clock/pull/62

EDIT: Looking further into it, the only merges and commits seem to be translations and GitHub metadata stuff, there has been no development since the fork :( - https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Clock/commits/master/

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

While inconvenient, you could build it yourself if it's a feature you really care about and don't want to wait and hope it gets merged.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 113 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Every time you look at the app, they share the time you're seeing with every other user, it's a privacy nightmare!

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ha! Unlike (some of) you plebs, I live in a very exclusive time zone with less than a billion people in it.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I would guess most timezones have less than a billion people. (Does China still have a single timezone?)

Now I’d be curious to see overall population based on timezone.

Edit: I found this https://distributionofthings.com/world-population-by-time-zone/

I was wondering if there are like island nations in the middle of the Atlantic or pacific that would be parts of time zones with super low populations. But I’m also guessing most such nations would want to associate with more populous neighboring time zones (for like commerce reasons, communication etc.) which is why time zones aren’t straight lines of latitude. So then that makes me wonder if for those reasons there are time zones with zero population.

Edit 2: And this https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/12504/least-populated-time-zones#:~:text=2%20Answers&text=There%20is%20one%20timezone%20that,the%20UTC%2D12%3A00. Seems to answer my follow up question. Seems there is a timezone with no inhabitants.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

I think China is still one giant timezone, yes.

Edit: There's a relevant map men episode about that (and the islands thing) but I'm at work right now

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 54 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Google harvests your sleeping patterns to sell more targeted ads.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

More like Google harvests your __________ to sell more targeted ads.

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

waking up to see my underscores have been harvested GODDAMNIT GOOGLE!

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Google harvests you to sell more targeted ads*

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Matrix did it!

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Very true... They harvest my nut sessions no doubt.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

But I block their ads… are they stupid???

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago

Ever wonder why you're getting ads for melatonin?

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 13 hours ago

Even better, 24hr of un stopped ads.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I also have no reflection.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Maybe you should think on that a little.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yup.

Edit: why do you think google bought Fitbit?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

IDK the way it was presented made it feel sarcastic.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 96 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Since the Play store requires one

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 35 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

At least Google is adhering to its own policies this time.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Helps that they got sued to hell and back recently.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Would rather they just be sued to hell and skip the back part.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 39 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It seems like alarms can trigger Google Assistant routines. Alarm sounds can either use local ringtones or YouTube Music. These things, Google Assistant and YouTube Music, they are cloud services. I imagine that the clock's privacy policy is there due to the usage of these cloud services (along with the rule from Play Store that requires every app to have a privacy policy).

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago

The clock also requires location services if you want it automated instead of manually putting the time zone, which most people don't do, so that's another thing they mistanage in their privacy policy.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 17 points 19 hours ago

most logical take. people seem to forget that modern apps are tied into all kinds of features that regular users expect to just work. if you want a bare OS with minimalist apps, install lineage or Graphene and only use apps from F-Droid.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

yiu do know that, every two seconds, it goes tiktok?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

I don't even, I can't even...

https://youtu.be/dMqWTkgDt6A

Good news gamers, it only works if you sleep alone!

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 20 hours ago

That policy better be really short.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)
[–] arran4@aussie.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

It has sleep tracking with snore and cough tracking

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago
[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Since never... Is that the official app? Or some dubious one from the appstore or some manufacturer's bloatware?