Just like the UK and Brexit. Both foreseeable political disasters.
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Boomers have unironically marched the world off a cliff in a fit of petulance, for our grave sin of refusing to consider that the universe itself may not revolve around each of them, individually.
I don't know how much the UK collectively regrets Brexit yet. I come from a heavily Leave voting area and it was depressing as hell being a part of the vote count. Leave, Leave, Leave, Remain, Leave, Leave, Remain. Now in the most recent election, Farage's Reform party got a concerningly high vote share, especially in areas like where I come from.
I was glad to see the Tories go, but I can't be too happy about the UK election when I consider Reform. I think back to how UKIP were like at local government level. They'd campaign on absurd promises like "we'll slash council tax and increase public services funding. Lots of things are possible if we get rid of those fat-cat Labour councillors". Then they'd get enough councillors that they could cause real harm to their constituents by obstructing progress; it helped their cause to make the Labour majority council look bad. They could promise the world because they knew that they were never going to get enough councillors to change much, so they could blame their utter failure to do anything useful once elected on Labour (in my area at least. Apparently the same playbook works in Conservative majority areas too)
Brexit was unambiguously a political disaster. Many of the people who voted Leave have been actively harmed and I can't even feel any schadenfreude at them because they haven't connected the dots there. Like, I see people having their faces eaten off by the leopards they voted for, and they're going "this is really hurting. See, this is why we needed the leopards eating faces party". It's honestly heartbreaking to witness.
I don’t know how much the UK collectively regrets Brexit yet.
Well, not collectively, but it starts to hurt in so many places I've seen, it will get into even the thicker skulls in time - if those don't just die out.
Not yet. Not for a little while. First, a few things have to happen:
- When the Department of Education is obliterated and schools nationwide collapse, it will also cause economic turmoil, because a lot of MAGA idiots work for federally-funded school systems in red states. They just voted to have themselves fired.
- The inevitable nationwide ban on abortion will kill a lot of women who believed it wouldn't happen and voted for him - despite how much he bragged about killing Roe.
- Measles, mumps, and rubella will all make startling comebacks as vaccination plummets. Seriously guys, get vaccinated while you can. Oh, and COVID-19 is going to have a massive resurgence once RNA-based vaccines are banned in the United States.
- With the purging of civil servants from the FBI, the IRS, and various other letter agencies, we're going to have a giant, stupid government staffed primarily by incompetent sycophants. Expect actual, productive work associated with any of them to grind to a halt. Expect the FBI to expend resources needlessly investigating whoever Trump hates at the moment. Expect the IRS to make mistakes that aren't in your favor, and you can't do anything about.
- Infrastructure week will forever be in the future, while actual infrastructure will be falling apart due to lack of funding. This problem will be felt the most in red areas, despite efforts to punish blue ones for voting for Harris.
- If you receive health care through the Affordable Care Act and you're MAGA, you'll be very surprised to learn that "Obamacare" was another name for it, and that you've just lost your health care. [insert "congratulations, you played yourself" meme here]
- You think things are expensive now? The inevitable flood of tariffs, with no adults in the room to tell Trump it's a stupid idea, will jack your prices up enormously. If you thought COVID-19 inflation was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
- The deeply, deeply stupid MAGA people who believed that Trump would leave their LGBTQ+ friends - well, former friends - alone will find out the hard way that voting to remove people's rights is a good way to make them disown you.
After things are going really, really badly, and there are only Republicans in government to blame, a few will begin waking up and realizing they've been had.
And by then, it will be too late.
You didn't even mention that the FTC will greenlight any merger and stop anti trust enforcement. Lina Khan did an amazing job, and that's a long term, sustainable way to keep inflation at bay. After consolidation across industries combined with tariffs, inflation will go through the roof.
Wegmans, Kroger, Giant, Tops, Meijer, Whole Foods all part of the Amazon Family.
Also:
- When NOAA is dismantled, the National Weather Service gutted and privatised, the National Flood Insurance Program abolished, and FEMA ‘overhauled’, the government’s ability to predict and respond to increasing climate disasters will be severely hampered. Private insurance companies have already been fleeing at-risk areas, so the impact of future hurricane seasons will be devastating.
Don't worry, Trump will be there to throw some paper towels into a crowd. Problem solved.
Ha well at least there is one silver lining for me. National Flood insurance being abolished would be great for me personally. I live inland and have a stupid river from a 40 year old map that doesn't even exist now causing me to pay. The process to remove it is long and typically requires a surveyor that can cost thousands.
Maybe when Florida is completely uninhabitable for large chunks of the year, some Floridians will start to wonder if maybe there was something to what all those egghead scientists have been saying.
Nah. It'll still be the Democrats' fault. Somehow.
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Saving this for future discussions because it's absolutely spot on.
Also, for any Republicans complaining about Obamacare, kindly remind them that it was started by Republican Mitt Romney.
At this point, Romney would have been expelled and disowned by the modern-GOP; that’s how far right the Overton window has shifted over the past decade.
They're gonna blame democrats and republicans are gonna believe them, I guarantee it.
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Please, none of the problems from Trumps presidency will be his fault. It will all be blamed on Democrats/Jews
And immigrants. And occasionally black people.
And queer people of every variety.
We know. Most of us already do at least. The others will follow later. But it'll be much, much too late.
They'll deny they ever voted for the guy, same as all the Republicans that suddenly realise Bush and Cheney are the worst after cheerleading for them for 8 years.
I’ll stop saying mean things about Dick Cheney if he takes trump on a hunting trip. Just saying.
Kamala Harris voters, 2024: 70,356,521
People who claim to have been Kamala Harris voters, 2030: 100,000,000+
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Unfortunately I'm not sure it's "most" hence the way the popular vote went.
Correct. Slightly more than one third of the population are still celebrating and slightly less than one third are already regretting it. Those are the two thirds who actually voted. The final third haven't actually noticed we had an election yet because they never bother to participate. If any of them pull their heads out of their asses at some point, they will likely regret it too, but I wouldn't put money on it.
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Maybe, or maybe all their problems will be the Democrats fault and if it is Trump’s fault then at least his heart was in the right place
Or if it is Trump's fault, it's actually a 4D chess move that will make things better in the end, we're just too dumb and educated to understand.
I don't mind the whole "our president is a felon" thing, I mind that he was able to use the smallest loophole imaginable to escape any consequences of being labeled a felon. Well, I guess the smallest loophole would have been leaving the planet, and I'm just as pissed that wasn't his exit strategy.
There was no loophole, all of it was made up and Biden refused to call their bluff.
"Insurrection Act only means the person can't hold office, it doesn't mean they can be removed from a ballot" Yah, okay.
You're talking about the insurrection clause. Which definitely doesnt forbid removal from a ballot. And, obviously it should mean Trump doesnt get to be sworn in as president, its very unambiguous there. But also theres other laws against insurrection that should be putting Trump in jail https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383
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Turns out the strategy of talking down to people with "this election is too important to listen to voters" didn't work. Too bad regular Americans will be saddled with the consequences while the incompetent politicians whose job is to get votes will still be sitting pretty. Looking forward to the next time I get spammed to donate to millionaires to "save democracy" while they continue ignoring voters.
*** WELCOME PAUPERS, TO THE BEGINNING OF THE NEO-MEDIEVAL ERA ***
You may now kiss the unwashed feet of your uhhh… king.
The bosses at my 3 part time jobs and my landlord are gonna get so jealous.
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America first
to go down.
I wonder how much of my family will die in the upcoming Holocaust. I wonder how many of them will look back at voting for Trump and realize where they went wrong. When Trump's accelerationist cohorts start trying to get Israel to burn, I wonder how many of my Israeli family members will say, "oh well, at least we got to kill lots of Palestinians. I was worried Harris might have slowed us down."
I actually don't think it will, because I believe America will have stopped being the "united" states by then and it will no longer be called America.
It will be called the Free American Independent Theocratic Hegemony according to the history books.
They'll regret it so much that they're not gonna elect him a second time
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