this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2024
221 points (98.3% liked)

politics

19127 readers
4561 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 2 points 6 minutes ago

It's simple really. We eat the rich.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 22 points 2 hours ago

Return to sender, please.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 13 points 2 hours ago

“We”? There’s no “we” dipshit, not when you can afford to buy and sell rockets while most working class are living on a diet of beans and rice, suffering roommates to make rent, all while working 40-90hrs a week for $7.50-$15 an hour.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wish Musk would face hardships.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I'd like to see him face 6 months in prison for his election interference. Just a warning shot.

[–] maggock@lemmy.world 57 points 3 hours ago
[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 140 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Says the heir to an emerald mine that has never encountered a single ounce of hardship during his entire waste of time on this planet. He's never even built anything, the fucker just buys his way in and takes credit for others' ideas.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 26 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Which, btw, he's an idiot for not just staying quiet and letting people praise him. Imagine for a moment he took the ridiculous wealth he has and kept quietly pointing it at things that help everyone. He would have been beloved and had more influence than he does now. All of it probably costing him less. Alongside many other reasons, this fucking dumb as shit shift he made makes me want to crush him and Trump even more.

Cause like wtf, Musk? You had a clear and easy path to all the power and prestige and recognition you could have ever wanted by helping the world. Instead, you turned into an asshole.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Once you become addicted to praise, it's hard to live without it.

Look at all the third rate actors and musicians who act like God's gift...

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

I think what you mean is attention. He would still have had praise, and less verbal mockery, had he kept up the other route. Instead we got a third rate villain who would be easily demasked without Fred and Velma.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 31 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think he did contribute code to PayPal in the early years but I also remember reading they had to rip it all out it was so bad.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 56 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I met Elon in ~1999 when they were pitching us integrating their payment system into our software which was run by a number of the largest firms in the world. Have you ever met a group where one of them is clearly a moron but it is also the best at selling? That's Elon. We passed because our company was run by nerds without an ounce of corporate in it, but I can easily see how Elon would "wow" an executive dipshit that doesn't know shit about the product. Elon is a salesman for the tech enthusiasts, not the tech professionals. He sells what they call dreams and we call vaporware.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

He's another steve jobs...dude was an idiot for tech, but a salesman that could sell bananas to monkeys.

This is why elon is dangerous, he's not dumb, and knows how to sell shit to the masses.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Monkeys love bananas, that would be an easy sell.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 83 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

“Most importantly, we have to reduce spending to live within our means,” he said, adding that these efforts will “involve some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”

Hey Musk. F******ccckkkk Yooooooooooo

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He has $270.3 billion dollars, which at $50K per year would take almost 3.5 million years to earn, and he's preaching to us about cutting back. What a guy.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

He took a bonus of like 60 billion dollars just for running a company that would have been successful without him. That’s money that could have been given to employees that actually make a difference in the company. So again I say F**************CCCKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOOOOO*

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 50 points 4 hours ago

But we can't face any hardships to save the planet. Gotcha.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 30 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

When will these conservative dumbfucks learn that austerity never works. They try it over and over in different countries and it literally never works.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 37 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It works just fine for the very wealthy who would never be caught dead using the same underfunded services that the commoners rely on.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But they don't understand that if they weren't such selfish assholes, they'd have it better as well, because society evolves.

That's why there were centuries of kings who lived as lavishly as they could, while society went nowhere and people shat in the streets. They still lived in shitty castles without running water.

They just lack imagination so much and are so afraid of losing status. Dumb fucks.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The main ingredients of conservatism are greed, hatred and ignorance. Coincidentally these are also the things the Buddha identified as the sources of all human suffering.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

“The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.” ― Socrates

Greed and hatred weren't that much of a problem for Socrates apparently, but they both agree that ignorance is fucking bad. And the Greeks had two words for it (at least), separating a lack of ability from a refusal to understand.

https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

“The higher, pretentious form of stupidity stands only too often in crass opposition to [its] honorable form. It is not so much lack of intelligence as failure of intelligence, for the reason that it presumes to accomplishments to which it has no right … The stupidity this addresses is no mental illness, yet it is most lethal; a dangerous disease of the mind that endangers life itself. … [S]ince the ‘higher stupidity’ consists not in an inability to understand but in a refusal to understand, any healing or reversal of it will not occur through rational argumentation, through a greater accumulation of data and knowledge, or through experiencing new and different feelings … We may say that the reversal of a spiritual sickness must entail a spiritual cure.”

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 hours ago

i'd rather a few hundred of the wealthiest face hardship for the first time in their lives--first time in generations of their family, for many. we're tired of waiting for the trickle.. it needs to be a downpour.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, "we will make it worse" is definitely the right way to get people to vote for you

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 hours ago

This is Farquad:

Some of you... may die... but that's a price I am willing to pay!

Applause

[–] capital@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At first I was asking myself why he would admit this but then I realized Trump voters read this and think, "finally, they'll hurt the right people" and assume they will not be affected.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also, they may still be happy if they are affected, as long as the outgroups they hate most are affected worst.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They'll find a way to blame Dems in the end too, I suppose.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh, absolutely. Umberto Eco pointed out that this is how fascism works.

The enemy is both weak and strong. “[…] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

The Dems are both craven lickspittles who are not manly enough to drive a truck, and yet strong enough to control everything even if they haven't been in power for a decade.

As we can see, fascism is bullshit for idiots.

[–] BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 39 points 4 hours ago

Translation: "Musk, and other rich people, will have to pay a tiny bit more in taxes if Harris wins." Aww poor baby! Fuck that guy!

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 50 points 5 hours ago

I am sure Musk will do his best to make life better for me. Oh wait.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Ah yes, fiscal responsibility from the fucking idiot who overpayed for Twitter and spends money on useless shit like sinks for fucking jokes.

He doesn't have to tighten his belt, of course.

He's not gonna shitcan SpaceX from NASA funding because they "cost too much" for example.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 19 points 4 hours ago
[–] noride@lemm.ee 24 points 4 hours ago

Javier Milei vibes. Ask an Argentinian how that choice is working out for them so far.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago

Later on, Musk said that he would “balance the budget immediately,” adding: “Obviously, a lot of people who are taking advantage of government are going to be upset about that. I’ll probably need a lot of security, but it’s got to be done. And if it’s not done, we’ll just go bankrupt.”

I wonder if he's afraid of backlash from cutting MIC funding.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 10 points 4 hours ago

It's amazing that the press constantly covers the comments of this drug addled fascist. Please revoke his citizenship and deport him.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

What a great winning message /s

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Fuck You, Elon

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago
[–] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Go deep throat a cactus Elon.

[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

I'm grateful to Musk for constantly proving that billionaires are made by luck.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago

Dork Maggot

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago

that ain't the flex you want it to be, elon!

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

is there a way to block posts by keyword like I can just block any post containing the word "musk"?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

There would certainly be less hardship for many if some wealth hoarding billionaires stopped hoarding hundreds of billions of dollars

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

"I don't want to be taxeeeeedddd wahhhh"

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Not that this is new, but i can’t believe the MAGAchuds don’t bum-rush this asshole and stomp him into grease.

“You’re all literal ants to meeee!”

*murmurs of not-disagreement*