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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 hours ago

My dumbass didn't think "damn Spotify doesn't pay artists"

Instead I immediately thought "damn more people are paying for their onlyfans than listening to their music"

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The article contradicts the heck out of itself.

Says billboard estimates she earns roughly $4k a day from Spotify streams. Then they speculate she makes roughly 8k a month from OnlyFans.

That would be like $120k a month from Spotify and $8k a month from OnlyFans.

That is FAR from more money from OnlyFans. Even if those numbers are hugely off I don't see how the discrepancy would be THAT large.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

The article didn't contradict itself since it did not make the claim that she made more money from Only Fans, the celebrity did. They just posted the estimated revenue from both services which doesn't match up with what she said. The only conclusions we can come up with is either their estimation is completely off or she was exaggerating her example.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That also happens to be exactly the kind of math error AI is notorious for making. I bet the article was written by AI and likely not even proofread by a human.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Or it wasn't making any kind of claim and just posting what the celebrity claimed and providing estimated revenue from both service based on what she claimed. Why are you falsely blaming this on AI for no reason?

[–] doktormerlin 16 points 1 day ago

But 8 > 4??? /s

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Spotify is a fucking racket

I have very a pair beautiful feet, with a strong arch. All toes included. Offers in PM.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how much her record label makes from her music on Spotify...

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Industry average is 2/3 goes to the label 1/3 goes to the artist.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hmm, so we may have a culprit in the case of the missing money.

And although I like Lily, she's not really done a lot of music recently, and was never really that big outside the UK.

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[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 161 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Damn, spotify truly is a scourge to artists.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The entire music industry is built to grift money from musicians and Spotify is a second layer of musician grifting industry built on the first.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 120 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Some years ago, an artist who was not a mega-star but was on all the major music services published an article detailing how well each one paid. I'm now kicking myself for not bookmarking it. I clearly remember Spotify being among the worst, if not the worst.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 96 points 2 days ago

The musician I saw last week mentioned that he'll get more money if you buy a CD from him now than if you stream his catalog on spotify for the rest of your life.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 36 points 2 days ago

Snoop Dogg said he got 45k for a billion streams.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good for her. If I thought there was a market for my disgusting claws I'd sell feet pics too.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Be the change you want to see in this world.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

feet just dont do it for me

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has to have a person attached.

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[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I'm a girl, in a healthy BMI and with nice hair, pretty and freckled face, but my feet are super crappy. Like, crusty, toes bend at weird angles, hard skin in random places. Even my own husband is like "plz no, stop" if they get too near to him.

I'm now wondering if there's a market on the other end of the scale...

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is. There’s a fetish for everything. Certainly when it involves your feet, I’d ask your husband if he’d be ok with some internet strangers paying you every month to see your feet, the worst is he says no, and on the other hand if he says yes you have a second source of easy income

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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It is my firm belief that, given a proper pitch, ANYTHING can be sold at a profit.

Also, there's rule 34: If a thing exists, it's someones fetish.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If it exists there is porn of it... Not sure where you got that other version from

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Something I've noticed in British media as of late is that OnlyFans makes some serious money - enough so that a creator can essentially use local journalism as an outlet for promoting their page.

I doubt some of the figures, but if you were to dig into them you'd probably see that number after the media have basically told people "look! Lily Allen has OnlyFans!"

Alongside that, funny enough, OnlyFans is probably one of the UK's biggest tech success stories. They make a lot of money, have only a few employees, and are basically leaders in their field. That's probably another weighing towards this being a promo piece.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Holy shit. I have feet. Does anyone want pictures of a guy's feet? They're big and weirdly shaped.

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm positive there is an audience for men's feet, but if you aren't 5 stars on wikifeet, you'll probably have to market yourself. Study the foot fetish community to find out what the dude foot fan needs more of. Etc.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

5 stars on wikifeet

Something about this part of your post made me giggle.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is there any way I can do this without finding out any more about this fetish?

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wear a men's 14. Basically the DD's of feet. My wife says I'm not allowed to show them off for free so get our your wallets folks.

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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Am I missing something? Does it not say she makes an estimated $4000 per DAY from Spotify and $8000 per MONTH from onlyfans?

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 47 points 2 days ago (6 children)

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lily-allen-feet-pictures-make-more-money-spotify-streams-1235811354/

Allen’s daily stream count on Spotify as of Oct. 17 was about 851,623. Assuming that number is correct, the Music Streaming Royalty Calculator estimates Spotify would’ve paid a total of $4,077 a day, with $3,239 going to sound recording for the copyright owner; $336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter; and $503 in performance royalties going to performance rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI, etc.).

Which of these numbers goes to her? I'm just confused, I think.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Everybody likes to hate Spotify but if they pay out 4000 dollars a day and the artist gets nothing, that doesn't sound like Spotify is the main problem.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago

That's pretty well known. They cut shitty deals with the record labels so they can have a large library. The record companies are making massive bank on Spotify, unlike pretty much every other party involved, including Spotify.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm not a huge Lily Allen fan, but her first album was incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfvOEn3GAo0&list=PLI6kLIhBBwmT_XV_24qMWetSE3tX_gvIF

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Perhaps this just means people value her feet more than music? I'm not into feet, but I really didn't like her music, so maybe this is reasonable.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

Not really. It just means onlyfans pays more than Spotify... which seems obvious to me??? A direct subscription to an artist vs only a few cents per play... yeah, no brainer, the artist is going to make less money in the latter deal.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article is just garbage, it says it's estimated she makes 4k a day with Spotify and 8k a month with OF

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

The article didn't claim she made more money on OnlyFans than on Spotify, Lily Allen did. They just then provided the estimated revenue from both services using the numbers claimed by her. It could be that they used the wrong estimation for one or both of the revenues, but what's more likely is that Lily Allen exaggerated her example.

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 30 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What's fun is that some people who read this article are probably into feet (good for them!) so it's like an ad and now she'll probably make even more on onlyfans. While still making ludicrously little from spotify.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Seeing how this thread is full of hate for Spotify by seeming large number of people who are fans of streaming music/podcast services, I'll pos this question here:

What are the better alternatives for someone seeking to get their favored audios, in terms of library selection, able to form custom playlists and how much if any support to the artist/content creator actually gets to them and what is pocketed by the app?

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