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DACH - Deutschsprachige Community für Deutschland, Österreich, Schweiz

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Grammatik in Europa.... (augsburg.social)
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[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Mein Vorschlag: de

De Frau

De Auto

De Berg

De Jungs

De Sonne

De Internet

De Probleme werden alle gelöst und de Menschen werden gerne de deutsche sprache lernen.

[–] rotkehle 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

und dann einfach "ne" als unbestimmten Artikel. Ich stimme de Vorschlag von ne Benutzer aus de Forum komplett zu!

[–] Karmmah@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Krtek 2 points 3 months ago
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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 16 points 3 months ago

Die Rheinländer haben's raus. Für die ist alles dat.

[–] smokeysnilas 13 points 3 months ago

Das ist doch dann bloß niederländisch!

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

De Anfang des Niederlandifizirung 💓

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

"-fizierung" schreibt man mit langem ie. Sorry, aber wenn meine Dienste angefordert werden, muss ich zur Stelle sein und meine Pflicht tun.

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[–] Freigeist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ietst sind son seks bukstaben auskesaltet, di sulseit kan sofort fon neun auf swei iare ferkürtst werden, anstat aktsik prosent rektsreibunterikt könen nütslikere fäker wi fisik, kemi oder auk reknen mer kepflekt werden.

für einen moment dachte ich, der satz sei im dialekt meines ehemaligen wohnortes verfasst worden.

[–] TeutonenThrasher 3 points 3 months ago

Erinnert mich an das umstrittene "Schreiben nach Gehör"

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

De Benutzer

Singular oder Plural?

[–] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago
[–] PrinzKasper 2 points 3 months ago

Erinnert mich an diesen Klassiker https://youtu.be/Pm4ePwjHAH4

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In Finland we forget all that and glue some random shit in the end of the word.

Have fun learning the language. Ha ha ha.

[–] Senseless 12 points 3 months ago

Perkele intensifies

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Meanwhile, Norway spells everything exactly like it's pronounced with no regard for grammar and here in Denmark, the only way to know whether to use "et" or "en" for a noun is to know already.

The languages of Northern countries (including Iceland) are so weird that you'd be somewhat justified in suspecting that bigots made it that way on purpose to make life difficult for non-native people trying to learn them 😂

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I often read americans saying something like: people learning english must be really confused when they see "yacht" haha so hard, it's pronounced different than it's written.

Uff yes such a hard language to decrypt

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It’s a hard language to read if you don’t know it but our syntax is simple and there’s little conjugation so it’s quite easy to learn to produce.

[–] skittlebrau@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I love the simplicity of Indonesian.

There is no ‘the’.

If you want to say the word for a group of something, you can usually double up the noun.

Book = buku

Many books = buku-buku

There are no conjugations or tenses since it’s implied based on context.

Eg. Tadi pagi saya pergi ke pasar.

Literally translated as “This morning I go to market”. Since the morning occurs in the past, the past tense is implied and understood.

In informal conversations, you can also usually drop the subject if you’re talking about yourself.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They also do the doubling for emphasis. I love the "Hati Hati" signs everywhere that tell you to drive extra careful.

Thai and Khmer do the same with tenses and just add tomorrow, yesterday, last year ... as context.

One of my favorites in thai is that the common question "gin khaw/กินข้าว" means "Have you eaten?", "do you want to eat" and "Come eat!" all at the same time and that its also most often meant this way. "Eat rice" in the past, present and future.

[–] superkret 3 points 3 months ago

Is it possible to answer no to กินข้าว without being rude?

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

One of the few Thai phrases I remember from my trip there (and forgive my phonetic spelling) is layo-layo, which, when said to a tuk tuk driver means "I have no fear of death" (actually "faster", but same result).

[–] eldain@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago

lmao. This makes German so much easier!

Alle Bundesland-Bundesland hat verschieden Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung-Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung.

[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Indonesians have better "The" and it's "Nya", for example

"Where is the man at?" = "Dimana orang nya :3"

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[–] marito@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

THE BART THE

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] qwerty_bastard@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

🇨🇦🇭🇲🇳🇿🇮🇪

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[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago

Easy, Slavic languages have declination of names. Both first and last names. Some last name are gender specific (different suffixes for males and females but considered "the same"). Have fun in non-slavic countries trying to convince the officials that you have the same last names (mother and the son).

Only Finnish, Hungarian and some non indo-european languages can beat us (like Chinese or Japanese).

I'll give you a small excerpt of very known Polish comedy (it's very dark humor but well). Germans will understand at least 50% of it (please have some humor :-))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKZclMWS1U

[–] taguebbe 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ein Werwolf eines Nachts entwich

von Weib und Kind und sich begab

auf eines Dorfschullehrers Grab

und bat ihn: „Bitte, beuge mich!“

Der Dorfschulmeister stieg hinauf

auf seines Blechschilds Messingknauf

und sprach zum Wolf, der seine Pfoten

geduldig kreuzte vor dem Toten:

„Der Werwolf“ – sprach der gute Mann,

„des Weswolfs, Genitiv sodann,

dem Wemwolf, Dativ, wie man’s nennt,

den Wenwolf, - damit hat’s ein End’.“

Dem Werwolf schmeichelten die Fälle,

er rollte seine Augenbälle.

„Indessen“, bat er, „füge doch

zur Einzahl auch die Mehrzahl noch!“

Der Dorfschulmeister aber mußte

gestehn, daß er von ihr nichts wußte.

Zwar Wölfe gäb’s in großer Schar,

doch „Wer“ gäb’s nur im Singular.

Der Wolf erhob sich tränenblind –

er hatte ja doch Weib und Kind!!

Doch da er kein Gelehrter eben,

so schied er dankend und ergeben.

Christian Morgenstern

[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This makes me want to learn german

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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Czech: we have no article at all

Also Czech: we have 7 cases btw and we use our demonstrative adjective quite often, not often enough to qualify as article but still

[–] dubak 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I guess if you have "vole" you don't need any articles. The last time I heard spoken Czech language every third word was "vole". That was years ago. Have you managed to further simplify your language by replacing more words with "vole"?

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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago

Multilingual LLM tokenizers:

guessilldie.jpg

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

Chinese: None of this is necessary.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Was waiting for a Finn to show up ... Or a Hungarian

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Now do Croatian and get ready to get fucked.... HARD!

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 4 points 3 months ago

Finnish is off the scale.

[–] superkret 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Read that as

Now do a Croatian and get ready to get fucked… HARD!

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[–] sunbather@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

cant forget irish: masculine an+T, an+L, an+D / feminine an+L, na+H, an+D / plural na+H, na+E, na+H

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Don’t forget the “female” refrigerators and “male” cabinets or some such male/female/neutral.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Switch to the mid 90s when we had to memorize all the 16 variations of "der" at age 12, because we had to take German as our third language.

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