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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 112 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Why is an image of someone sharpening a kitchen knife called "obscure and outdated"? Is everyone out there just using shitty dull knives now? Lol

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I knew someone who would replace their knives every year or two after they were dangerously dull. He called me a sucker for buying a nicer set, and it never occurred to him that they could be sharpened and reused.

It's getting bad out here.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every year or two??? That's just when a new knife is finally getting broken in lol I've got knives my parents bought before I was born that I still use!

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

We're talking real low grade, picked up at walmart knives. Unlikely they would last like that anyway, but absolutely refused to spend more than like $10 on a chef knife because they were treated as disposable.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

If they won't even pay more than $10 then whatever they bought probably already needed sharpening straight out of the box lol

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Even the cheapest knife is still going to last many, many years of normal use. Most of my knifes are super cheap actually. But they are super sharp, so who cares? Just sharpened then a few days ago (has been a few months). Only takes like a minute per knife with my "work sharp" to get them just about razor sharp.

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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's getting bad out here.

You haven't seen anything yet. If you have teacher friends, ask them how the new generation is doing 💀 they haven't learned almost anything since COVID started and have virtually no social skills on top of it... I'm legit scared for the future.

[–] zout@fedia.io 17 points 2 months ago

The whole COVID made the kids dumb is just the newest excuse in a long line. Before that it were phones, computers, calculators and probably a lot more. My kids are from the new generation, and they're doing just fine.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So just like every generation before us then...? Socrates 400 BC:

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

CHILDREN CROSSED THEIR LEGS!!!!!!!!1!!!!!11!!!!!!!! what an abomination!

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know people who just throw them out and buy new knives when they dull, so there's also that 😔

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Seriously? Just throwing out practically brand new knives is a thing now? Decent knives will last for decades if you sharpen them a few times a year lol

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, they'll use crappy blunt knives for a few years.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And they'll keep them in a drawer and cut on plates and glass "cutting boards."

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I just realized why my pizza cutters never last long...

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone knows about Vimes' Boots Theory:

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Apparently. I complemented them on their knives and they said they just got them cause their old ones were getting dull.

Told them to let me know next time, and I'd take them. I may be a bad friend as I did not disclose that knives could be sharpened lol.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Offer to take them, and then go pick them up with your sharpener. Sharpen them there. Test their sharpness. Then take the knives. Obviously don't be smarmy about it, but friends don't let friends throw money down the garbage disposal. I bet a lot of people would genuinely appreciate learning how to save some cash on knives. Even shitty Walmart kitchen knives are expensive enough to make a $50 work sharp bench stone worthwhile

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Well, if you don't have time or don't want to learn about knife sharpening my advice is to get a cheap pull through sharpener for your kitchen knives. They're super easy to use and will add years to the usefulness of your knives. It doesn't work as well as doing a full sharpening, but it will get them cutting well again at least!

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sharpening and caring for your knives is hardly an outdated skill you'll never use. If you're not regularly sharpening your knives, you're doing yourself a major disservice.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

My best friend buys a new chefs knife every month at the dollar store

Ihe was throwing them away, but now he gives them to me. I’ve shown him how sharp I can get them and how long they last with the edge I put on them, but he does not want to learn or just give them to me to sharpen every few months.

I now sell his sharpened throw aways to friends and family for 5 bucks a pop.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

If y'all still out there shaving with cartridge razors you're wasting so much money on getting a shittier shave.

But, yeah, "Art of Manliness" and their ilk do try to capitalize on a call to return to old fashion things by selling jazzed up overpriced safety razors and brushes.

You don't need fancy shit to get a better cheaper shave.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

i still use the same no frills safety razor handle i got from target ~2015. and the 100 pack of astra blades i got for $10 lasted until just recently

can't believe how much money i blew on bullshit gillette crap for so long

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yup! Astra blades are less than 10¢ each if you buy a 100 pack

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago

You can get really good vintage razors off eBay for next to nothing. If you don't wanna gamble on that, you can get a stainless steal 3 piece razor for a little over $15. Even the Wilkinson sword will save you money vs a cartridge razor while also being a shitty, not very durable, de razor

[–] sxan@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Until the TSA lifts restrictions on blades, cartridge razors will continue to be a necessary evil in my kit. However, there are so many better options for your home, as you say. The shown safety razor style is perfectly fine, and so much less expensive, even if you don't go all in with a solid soap and brush, and just use a normal shave cream like Creamo.

Its inclusion here is absurd. Cartridge shavers are shitty for the environment, and shitty for your wallet; they're not less manly, they're just a less smart choice.

[–] dbx12@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait, TSA throws a fit over razor blades in checked baggage? I can understand they deny it in carry-on but down in the hold?

[–] sxan@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No. Checked is OK, but most of my trips are entirely carry-on. I almost never check bags, unless I'm going on vacation. I did, however, once lose a nice pocket knife because I forgot to put it in my checked bag before getting on an early AM return flight, and had to give it to the bin, so I still avoid taking things that could get confiscated if I mispack them during the trip.

I don't know about you, but my outbound packing is pristine; by the time I'm coming home after a couple of weeks, it's a toss-up where anything is.

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[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Can we start making websites/forums devoted to just regular individual wholesome dudes and characterize them as peak masculinity?

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I need to sharpen my knives

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wetshaving seems fancy but honestly its the cheapest, fastest and best way to shave, that i have found.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (11 children)

In my experience it's also the best way to show up at the office with a bloody neckline

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You just need to shave with the grains (this may vary a lot from face to face) and you should never slide the blade sideways

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Okay, but knife sharpening is not outdated since everyone that cooks needs sharp knives. Bad choice. Shoulda been something like starting fires with wood friction.

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[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Rolex 🙄 no thanks. Not interested in overpriced, obsolete jewelry. Let’s just call it what it is 🤷🏼‍♀️ Casio digital, ftw 🙌🏼 bc I actually like to know what time it is.

Haven’t purchased cologne since I was probably like 20. Dudes really go ape shit over that creed stuff, ay?

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[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Since when is sharpening kitchen knives obscure? Have you guys never used a sharp knife before? Are you cutting food with dangerous and dull knives??

I recently got a set of knives that are sharper than I have ever seen, though one is kinda dull. I plan on sharpening it soon, just waiting on getting my wetstones in the mail.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Are you cutting food with dangerous and dull knives??

Probably yes because:

  1. It was sharp at some point in the past, so I "bookmarked" it in my mind as a "sharp" object, but I always fail to update my "bookmarks".
  2. I'm lazy.
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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

And above all, everything is brown for some reason.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So many people are freaking out over the knife sharpening. A) you're in this picture and you don't like it B) hand sharpening on a whetstone isn't necessary for home cooks. Other tools will get you to adequate with a lot less effort, both in learning and using the tools.

It's ok to not optimize everything in your life. It's ok to put your knives in the dishwasher. It's ok to shave with an electric. It's ok to not look like or dress like how these sites say you should.

Edit: jeeze, apparently it's not ok so much so that it's ok to imply violence is acceptable against people who put their knives in the dishwasher. I'm pretty grossed out by this interaction and at the people that insist their way of doing something is better, easier, whatever, when I've already said no thanks. Ew.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Whetstones require less effort than most commercial sharpening systems, and provide a better edge and more flexibility. But the point isn't that you need to use a whetstone, it's that you should be sharpening your knives.

It's ok to put your knives in the dishwasher.

Oh good lord! Somebody hold me back!

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[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Sure, all of that and then you go out with an half windsor, like a schoolboy

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With the exception to the rolex and “10 things she wants to see you wear”, I like the things here.

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