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[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It honestly feels that they are more like Foreign Agents seeking to cause harm to other countries than real "Leftists". I used to consider myself Far Left until I ran into rabid Marxist-Lenonist Leftists (see Lemmy.ML) and how 'left' I was was put into perspective.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Have you ever considered the fact that perhaps you are more left than they are? They will ban you from their communities for Horseshoe Theory should you mention this. But when it comes to authoritarian ideology as ml is. Though they'll swear up and down it's not despite every time it's ever been implemented it's always been authoritarian. Much the same as economic liberalism . But authoritarians are always authoritarian first. Anything resembling left or right is a passing thought at best.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever considered the fact that perhaps you are more left than they are?

Interesting concept actually. I haven't thought about that before.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Remember a lot of Rednecks volunteered in Catalonia back in the Spanish civil war, and came back fucking hating fascists and so called communists. I heard quite a few old bastards refer to the Soviets as "backstabbing pseudofascists" because the Soviets in Republican Spain were purging anyone who didnt adore the Soviets. Though not a Redneck George Orwell had a lot to say about that shit since he also saw it.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I haven't just considered it, I know for a fact that I'm farther left than an edgelord who thinks being "left" involves assuming the moniker of an actual historical freedom fighter as if to appropriate their struggles from the comfort of an air conditioned computer chair.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A person who is against the lies on .ml is indeed more leftist than most everyone on .ml.

They praise "socialist" countries that are actually state capitalist and producing hundreds of billionaires. It is very clear and overt that their priorities are nominally left authoritarianism over leftist economics.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yes there does need to be a revolution and solidarity among the proletariat. But authority no matter how good intentioned left to stand. Always seeks to justify their existence even through destructive means.

It was one of the things that the founding fathers of the United States for all their flaws understood fairly well. That was quickly forgotten and ignored once they had passed.