this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2024
591 points (97.3% liked)

politics

19145 readers
2488 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 258 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Maybe his politics are complicated. Did y’all consider that? That a white South African industrialist who dabbles in eugenics, treats employees like shit, and thinks catturd2 is funny might be a complex enigma?

[–] finley@lemm.ee 70 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Whatever could be the politics of the tech billionaire son of a South African apartheid blood-emerald baron?

I wonder

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 months ago

It’s so mysteriass

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And he's the multibillionaire that actually wants to put microchips into people's heads unlike Bill Gates who's checks notes actually trying to cure malaria? (He's probably still not a saint though, every billionaire is part of the problem.)

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bill Gates has strong enough ties to Epstein that his wife divorced him and left their charitable foundation they started together. So idk man, he's not so great either

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/melinda-gates-jeffrey-epstein-led-to-bill-gates-divorce-gayle-king-interview

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, that's what I said. But Musk is literally doing supervillian shit while Gates seems to be at least trying to do some good to outweigh the bad. Still, billionaires are a cancer to a planet. I just find it ironic that Gates has become this demonic figure for something he never did and what Musk is literally trying to do with no one batting an eye.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Did you consider that you might not have the deep insight of a guy in a k-hole who spent 44 billion dollars to run a successful social media company into the ground?

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] 242@lemmy.cafe 17 points 4 months ago

"It's complicated". Nah, not really. An egomaniac, rich asshole took refuge in the right wing safe space because they kiss his ass and call him a genius. But they still won't buy his electric cars.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 155 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Just pointing out that Musk is an immigrant.

Born in South Africa, immigrated to Canada to avoid military service, then used Canadian citizenship to apply for and obtain US citizenship.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 87 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's the white kind.

Right, sorry. Right kind.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

*Reich kind

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

What a fucking pussy, or so I'm told by conservatives that weigh in on this without his name being shared.

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 111 points 4 months ago (1 children)

New headline: Asshole shits on everything

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unwashed deviant asshole who Putin holds kompromat over forced to help another pedophile, who Putin also holds kompromat over.

Both met with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell…

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago (33 children)

At this point, how is owning a Tesla car not just like walking around wearing one of those stupid red hats?

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 56 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I agree and I drive a Tesla, unfortunately it's paid off so for the time being it just makes sense to keep driving it because it costs me basically nothing.

But I feel like a POS in public and it sucks.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 57 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I’m sure there is a bumper stick that’s says “I got this before musk was crazy”

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Those bumper stickers are bullshit. Musk was a nut job who profited from apartheid and then bought his way into the public mind as some kind of low rent Tony Stark from the get. San Francisco 2012 people thought I was nuts for claiming he was a huge charlatan and now those same people rock those bumper stickers.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Despite Musk, Teslas did have some positive effect as they helped push electric car adoption. The big automakers were not interested in taking risks, and nobody was eager to build out large charger networks.

I certainly don't credit Musk himself for it, but no one should feel ashamed of having bought one of those cars back then. Today there are other good options for electric vehicles from companies run by slightly less bad people, but let's not kid ourselves. Everything we buy comes from some company that is enriching monsters...it's just that some of them are more monstrous than others.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] die444die@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ok so people didn’t know, that doesn’t make them bad people and it doesn’t make you as smart as you think you are.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

There are. I've seen them.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I have a friend with a tesla who put on a bumper sticker along the lines of "I got this before he became a raging asshole"

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (31 replies)
[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 76 points 4 months ago

The world will be much better off without these pieces of cum-flavored shit on the planet. I hope to see the day.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Conservatives own at least 2 media companies (X, Truth Social), Trump got reinstated with Meta... Imagine doing all this for a man who raped a 12 year old

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I was going to start listing other examples, like Rupert Murdoch and Sinclair broadcasting, but in reality billionaire conservatives own and operate all major legacy media outlets at this point. That includes CNN and NYT.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No one should be surprised that Pedo Guy is supporting a pedophile.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course he did.

Musk just substituted “free speech absolutist” for “billionaire absolutist”…a world where nothing stands in his way.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 55 points 4 months ago
[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Elon Musk peddles the racist replacement theory among other things. It is absurd a white settler from South Africa is afraid to be replaced by the indigenous people.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

It's been clear for years now that Musk is is a full mask-off Nazi. I don't understand how anyone doesn't see it yet.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

I guess he bought a lot of goodwill by investing in Tesla Motors and pretending it was his idea.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] NutWrench@lemmy.zip 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Move demonstrates Musk’s growing influence in Washington

It demonstrates the growing influence of EVERY billionaire in Washington DC ever since the courts accepted the "corporations are people / money is speech" arguments.

When that happened, the government stopped representing the needs of ordinary people and only represented the needs of billionaires and their lobbyists. It's taking a long time to play out, but it's going to end badly.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

Musk is exactly the asshole many people figured him out to be. Such a gigantic man-baby.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

Fuck Elon Musk

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Putting this guy’s shitty politics aside for a moment, Trump and the GOP have be shitting on EVs extra hard over the past year. Tesla is hurting right now, and if Trump wins the dead heat, that company could be fucked. Moreover, he also has a bunch of government contracts keeping Space X and Starlink alive.

If Musk doesn’t pay up and kiss the ring, he could be screwed if Trump wins.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Elon will be fine with his massive bonus that he totally earned for all the great work he's done for Tesla.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Greed gonna greed. He wants more.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

Fascists helping fascists. How quaint.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

apartheid baby bitch shocking the world yet again

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, well that just flipped the switch in my head from "wow that musk guy is an egotistical asshole devoid of even the most fleeting sense of altruism," to "I actively hate this dude now."

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Better late than never.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

surprising nobody. Guy who made nearly all his money in corporate buyouts and government contracts backs the anti union guy who wants to ban electric cars. It just shows you this is about class warfare.

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Even a shitstain like Musk has his worth: he made me recognize that there are no exceptions to the rule that there are no ethical billionaires.

i kinda liked him many years ago; a fact that makes me pretty unhappy with myself. I really thought that his push for wide adoption of EVs might be a sign of philantropy and a sense of ethics. i'm seldom THAT far off the mark, so i have to thank him in a kinda awkward way for dropping his act.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Well Trump said he'd cut taxes for the rich if they helped him get re-elected. Honestly surprised it took Musk this long to donate to him, especially with talk of Trump making making Secretary of Transportation.

[–] III@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

How did Musk know to donate to Trump a whole day before he decided to fully endorse him after the shooting? So strange. Maybe he always fully endorsed him and is just an attention seeking whore.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago
load more comments
view more: next ›