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[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 223 points 1 week ago (8 children)

750 a year? Wtf is this retard smoking. Cost for land, hay storage, water, vet, and farrier. Human time cost to feed them twice a day, get rid of or spread the shit. Blanket, saddle, bridle. You're looking at a few thousand a year minus the time sink.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This article says 8 to 11k yearly. https://horserookie.com/average-horse-cost-by-state/

While cost of owning a car is between 3k and 9k yearly according to https://www.move.org/average-cost-owning-a-car/.

I would have thought that a horse would be much more expensive, like 10 times a car cost.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting, I recall a colleague in UK mention that it was costing her up to 20k a year. That was her max but not always/everywhere - would have been almost 30k USD at the time, so it sounds considerably cheaper in US but obviously a lot more land available and affordable

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[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Had em in a poverty state 20 years ago 🤷

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost all of those problems are solved by your local park.

Vet costs can be reduced by the skillfull application of healing stones.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago

horse sick? get a new one

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yep. Once upon a time, you had to be very wealthy to own a car.

Now it's horses.

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 112 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Zero emissions? I know people find it ha ha funny, but farts legitimately contain methane and other green house gassses.

Cows for example are a large contributor of GHG

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

plus if we had as many horses as we did cars we would be living in a horse shit apocalypse.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Compress into brick, then build tower. Now you also have tower.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I generously donate my castle composed entirely out of horse shit to you kind sir.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Only you can solve the housing crisis

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[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel hay and grass may end up more expensive than anon thinks... For grass, you need a big place where your horse can graze. Anon either is such a big landowner or intends to rent such land, but it won't be cheap. Then the hay for when the horse is kept indoors... Gotta be a lot of hay. And the means of bringing and storing the hay may be of non-negligible price. Then there are vet bills, because horses can get sick or injured...

I knew someone who owned horses long ago. Well, more like someone whose parents owned horses since we were kids. They even had a coach that these horses could pull. But they didn't use it as a means of transportation unless just doing a simple roundtrip for leisure, and there's a simple reason for that: You can't leave your horse for hours on a parking spot. You can tie it up somewhere maybe, but not for a long time, there aren't many places fit for leaving horses nowadays.

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[–] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Horses can't be beat in the post-apocalypse for speed, but for most other things you probably want a donkey or mule. Far sturdier, easier to handle, can eat anything, and has no regard for wolves.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (12 children)

As long as there's roads or smooth paths left, an ordinary person can do 200 km in a day on a bicycle. A quick search tells me that specifically trained horses can do 160 km in an endurance race. Sure a horse would probably be the fastest in a sprint, but a bicycle has the best travel speed.

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[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've never really interacted with them, but from what I've read, they have no regard for much of anything.

[–] Laser 12 points 1 week ago

And why would they

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (6 children)

From what little I know about horses, almost all your time is spent trying to make sure they don't kill themselves. I can leave my vechile outside in the cold for weeks at a time and not have to think about it.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

if you tie it up outside and leave it there and it dies it didn't kill itself

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

0 emissions

FYI: Horses fart and methane is a greenhouse gas more potent than carbon dioxide.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I'm also intrigued by the "costs $1000 and $750/year to maintain" claim, as the horse people I know spend closer to 20x that.

[–] solarbabies@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Humans also fart methane, is that a reason not to ride them?

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

$750 a year to maintain health

Lol

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

$750/month if you have to stable it.

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[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These prices are ridiculously incorrect, but we can dream and strive to build a horsepilled world.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'd feel bad about leaving them tied to a tree while I'm at work, so I'd probably just go with a bike which is fueled by snacks and doesn't even shit!

!micromobility@lemmy.world ftw

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[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago

False - you can get a DUI on a horse (in some states).

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You will get an OWI if you ride a horse drunk.

Source: I know a guy who trained his horse to ride from the bar to his house on its own. Cops still pulled him over because he was sleeping on the horse.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That is a shockingly cheap horse.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Ignoring lack of parking, slow travel and waste disposal, it's more like 3-6k if you already live on a farm. 5-10k if you board it with someone, and you'll likely need a car to get you to the stables.

A bicycle however...

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Believe it or not, riding a horse while drunk is also an offense in many places.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where is this guy getting a horse for $1,000 from?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I mean if you want any old horse and can transport it you can often get them for free. They're like pianos

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[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where the fuck you store it though? A shitty car you can park anywhere, a horse is gonna take some space. Especially for us poor fucks where the temperature drops below freezing for part of the year. Car just maybe not gonna start today, a horse might not start ever again.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Consider horse a room mate. Finally someone to talk to.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What constitutes reliable is a matter of opinion I suppose, but the first concrete statement of fact:

0 emissions

Wrong, right out of the gate.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The lowest emission vehicle you can own is an electric bike.*

Will cost 1–4k and way less than $750 annually in maintenance. Can get a road-only one or one capable of going off-road. Does not require insurance or licensing. Can't legally drink and ride, but you're very unlikely to get caught if you do, and unlike drink driving the risk is overwhelmingly only to yourself.

Keeps you fit and healthy by being active in your daily life.

* yes, lower even than an analogue bike, because the electric motor is more carbon efficient than human muscle power which requires eating more.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

yes, lower even than an analogue bike, because the electric motor is more carbon efficient than human muscle power which requires eating more.

Everytime I saw this claim, it ended up being bullshit. What's your source?

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

What’s your source?

A bull.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Can't legally drink and ride

On a scale of 1 to YEEEEE-HAAAAWWWWW, I rate that as a yeeeee-NAAWW.

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I know it's a joke. If I was taking it seriously: I don't want to spend several hours getting to a job that's already say, an hour's commute. And then storing the horse at the job and then several hours back.

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[–] vordalack@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t think the horse pill means what anon thinks it means…

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Faster travel > everything else

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

I'm just here to appreciate horseface gigachad, nei-ei-ei-ei-eighhhhh 😆

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)
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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also the cost of fixing a horse is a new horse

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