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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The lowest emission vehicle you can own is an electric bike.*

Will cost 1–4k and way less than $750 annually in maintenance. Can get a road-only one or one capable of going off-road. Does not require insurance or licensing. Can't legally drink and ride, but you're very unlikely to get caught if you do, and unlike drink driving the risk is overwhelmingly only to yourself.

Keeps you fit and healthy by being active in your daily life.

* yes, lower even than an analogue bike, because the electric motor is more carbon efficient than human muscle power which requires eating more.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

yes, lower even than an analogue bike, because the electric motor is more carbon efficient than human muscle power which requires eating more.

Everytime I saw this claim, it ended up being bullshit. What's your source?

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

What’s your source?

A bull.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's been a while, but I believe this video was where I heard it. From memory (I'm out right now and can't rewatch to verify) it was specifically the per-kilometre carbon emissions, not taking into account manufacturing costs.

Obviously there's some fuziness depending on your diet and the power source used for charging. A vegan who would be charging in a coal-powered grid is going to look better, relatively speaking, for an analogue bike than someone who eats multiple kilos of red meat every week who has solar panels.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not vegan, but I largely replaced by cycling calories w/ oats when I biked to work for a few years, and my area is largely powered by coal and natural gas (not sure on the exact ratio). I haven't done the math, but I'm guessing I would come out ahead of an electric bike, especially if we included manufacturing and shipping costs for the motor and battery.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll take that as a compliment.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Can't legally drink and ride

On a scale of 1 to YEEEEE-HAAAAWWWWW, I rate that as a yeeeee-NAAWW.