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I’ve decided undecided voters have low critical thinking skills and/or are attention seekers

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 269 points 3 months ago (5 children)

If you're an undecided you've always been a bit of a cunt but now especially.

[–] AtomicHotSauce@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago

I came here to make certain this clarification was entered into record. Thank you.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

At this point the undecideds look 10X dumber than the average MAGA supporter. MAGAs either fell for the rage bait or they think they'll be rewarded somehow (also falling for that lie since Trump only ever rewards his own family). But to be fucking "undecided" between what I think is a somewhat moderate and capable candidate in Harris and a clearly authoritarian grifter in Trump, you need to be straight up committed to a hospital because you probably have a tumor.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Those cunts ain't voting, I guarantee it.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 3 months ago

They are, they'll vote for Trump, they just don't want to admit it publicly.

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[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And the fate of the entire country rests in their hands.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No it doesn't. If the decided voters turn out, then it GG and Republicans never win another election.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Well, as long as their eligibility/registration isn't tossed under dubious means, there are enough polling stations where they live, they have the ability to go (as in not working or their work allows them to go), their vote sent by mail isn't caught in a USPS black hole until right after the deadline despite being submitted long before, so on, and so on.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 153 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I can't imagine how anyone looks at Trump, and who he is as a person, then compares to Harris and still can't decide. The choice is so painfully clear, it's not even a choice. Trump isn't fit for office at any level, let alone the highest office in the land.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 79 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I can't imagine how anyone looks at Trump,

the people 'undecided' arent looking at anything. they just dont consume media in the same manner, if at all, as the rest of us. there are humans who actively avoid all politics, and in the united states this is actually very easy to do.

we have bred an entire class of humans who just do not give a shit, and its hard to get them to suddenly care 'this cycle'

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t understand why anyone cares about the “undecideds”. These people sound like morons who wouldn’t listen to reason anyway.

Stop begging for scraps. These people make up about three percent of potential voters, and I doubt most of them even bother to go to the polls.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-three-percent-voters-still-035900135.html

[–] Poayjay@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Literally every election is decided by the “undecided”. Democrats vote democrat and republicans vote republican. It rare that anyone changes party. What determines elections is if democrats can get people who wouldn’t otherwise vote to vote. Every time people turn out, democrats win. When people are uninterested they lose. Those ~50k people in suburbs of swing states are not unimportant, they are the only thing that matters.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

This premise gets thrown around a lot but I actually disagree. "Every time people turn out" is always also thrown in there like some arbitrary thing--when I think the past several election cycles have shown that when there are younger, more progress candidates who make it past the primaries turnout shoots up. Courting the 3% uninformed flip-floppers by moving right is a losing strategy when you could be motivating your own party to turn out by moving left and driving turnout up. There's no money in that though, so dumb centrists get wooed

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It’s also a mistruth that people don’t change their minds. Look at the rise and fall of any brand, religion or cult - some people had to change their minds.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

in a world where the winner is decided by < 5%, 3% is quite a bit.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 17 points 3 months ago

Some of them are also "goldfish voters." These people only engage with whatever political message has been delivered to them most recently. They literally can go from D to R and back again bumper sticker to bumper sticker.

Then there are the obligate ego independents. Their only political belief is that they must vote for both parties some of the time. If they voted D last time then they will probably vote R this time. Because their identity is "independent" so they must manifest that, all reason be damned.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

there are humans who actively avoid all politics, and in the united states this is actually very easy to do.

Man, I dont even live in the US, and US politics is inescapable. Of course Canada's political climate is directly affected by what's going on down there, so It's probably harder to avoid here than somewhere across an ocean.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

In other words, morons.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Holy hell those three people are infuriating.

"Yeah, he's a racist and a bigot, but my pocketbook..." Lady, unless you make enough that it doesn't matter, he's not going to help your pocketbook.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

He's going to hurt your pocketbook*

Let's be real here.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I guarantee that woman has been registered R her entire life, sees why he is problematic on a very superficial level, and is still going to AT BEST abstain from voting but more likely vote for him anyhow.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The biggest miss at the debate was Harris not reminding everyone how Trump was bullying the fed chair on Twitter when everyone said it was time to start raising interest rates.

In general, the distinction between populism and technocracy needs to be front and center. This is a very easy example.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago

Anyone still claiming to be undecided about Donald Trump in 2024 is full of shit

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you saw that debate and came out with, "Hmm, but which one should I vote for?", just say you're voting for Trump. Say that shit with your chest, loud and proud. I wanna know what places to avoid.

~~He said immigrants are eating people's pets for fucks sake.~~

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why did you cross that last line out? He did say that.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 44 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They are trump voters who don't want to admit it.

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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 months ago

Undecided voters don’t matter in this election. There’s so few of them, and most of them are just people who are too scared to say they support Trump.

This election will be decided by turnout.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I cannot understand these wishy-washy, fencing idiots. Do they live in caves? Not just any caves either, But the one Plato talks about? Seriously WTF is wrong with these people. If you don't know what Trump stands for after all of these years, and can't understand what Harris is about, then you seriously should just smack yourself in the face with a cast iron skillet - repeatedly - until either you smash the stupid out of yourself or fall into a coma. I honestly don't care which.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's essentially what I told my wife last night. If you're undecided and watched the debate and still are undecided, just admit you're a Trump voter.

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[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Last night’s CNN interviews with undecided PA voters made me want to weep for the electorate.

So many of them really were clueless.

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

For what it's worth, there's been talk that they're really having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find true undecided voters willing to go on TV and be part of these panels. That's unfortunate in the sense that it suggests there aren't many actually-persuadable voters out there, but these clowns aren't especially representative of the general electorate, either.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only way you could be undecided is if you are lying about supporting Trump because you are ashamed to be associated with his name.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

I just can't make up my mind on this one... should I eat a salad, or light my testicles on fire? I mean, it's not that I want my testicles on fire, it's just that I'm really not in the mood for salad.

Six one, half dozen the other, ya know?!

[–] grumpo_potamus@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

If you're still undecided at this point, you don't deserve to vote.

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 28 points 3 months ago

I swear, you could have Hitler reincarnate with Himmler as vice president looking exactly the same as how they looked like in WW2 and use the exact same rhetoric, and the current undecided voters would still be equally clueless on who to vote for, assuming they're actually undecided and not "closeted conservative voter who doesn't want to look bad".

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago

Jesus. That Andrew Wallace guy is a dumb motherfucker lol.

To see that lump of shit Trump laid on the stage last night and go "Yeah, I'm a Democrat and all, but that's my guy right there!!"

That dude is a republican just like that last asshole that conned his way into CNNs "undecided voters" bullshit.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I've never understood how some 70 million Americans watched Trump speak and said "aaah, THIS is my president". You have to have some mental disability to actually choose this dude. Or you're just an evil asshole who wants personal gains.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Most are probably some combination of both evil and stupid.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

Considering I was seriously interested in how the debate would go and had to turn it off only half way through, I think it’s highly likely that 70 million Americans waited for Fox to feed them the Cliff’s Notes version.

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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wrestling with the hardest decision since cake or death.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Election 2024: High five vs kick in the nuts

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Yes, but surely he wouldn’t kick ME in the nuts… just those people I don’t like, right? Why would I want someone to high five THEM?

[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Need to stop focusing on undecidedvoters and get people that don't (consistently) vote to vote. If they aren't decided by now wouldn't count on them.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 16 points 3 months ago

I mean , sometimes SNL is truer to life than is comfortable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAG37Kw1-aw

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 14 points 3 months ago

Le enlightened apolitical centrist

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Undecided to being a racist nazi you mean. I don’t see how a true republican can support such a divisive felony candidate.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know that there are a number of people who simply don't pay attention and suddenly realize that they have no idea what's going on when election time comes around. THEY are the undecided voters.

What you see in the media, however, does not convince me that they are genuinely undecided. I believe that a lot of people claim it for the attention they get. Then we have examples of people pretending even though they are actually part of someone's campaign.

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