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I watched ABC FAKE NEWS this morning, both lightweight reporter Jonathan Carl’s(K?) ridiculous and biased interview of Tom Cotton (who was fantastic!), and their so-called Panel of Trump Haters, and I ask, why would I do the Debate against Kamala Harris on that network?

Who's surprised he's trying to chicken out?

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[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 119 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

If he does drop out of the debate again, I bet they could get him to recommit by going all Biff Tannen on his ass:

"What's the matter McTrump? Chicken?"

He'll bristle, and say he's no chicken and agree to debate Kamala.

In all seriousness, I was surprised agreed to debate her at all, given that he has nothing to gain. Best cash scenario, he tries the same approach he used with Biden, turning his mouth into a fire hose of lies, and Biden couldn't keep up. With Kamala, she'd just laugh at his lies, and actually refute him with facts, he'd look just awful in comparison.

At this point I doubt he'll actually show up to the debate.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 86 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

One of the issues he has is that ABC and the Dems want real time fact checking.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago

The nerve! Not allowing him to just stand there and lie without being challenged!

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

How would real-time fact checking even work? Would the moderators actually do their job for once and call it out, or would they just do little VH1/"Pop Up Video"-style graphics where they would highlight whether they would try to correct the record on certain things being said?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Here's my proposal.

During each candidate's first turn to speak, no fact checks are shown, but the fact checkers will use the other candidate's turn to come up with corrections. Then when it's the first candidate's turn again, the start of that their speaking time is used to read the corrections from their previous statement. If the corrections take the whole speaking slot, too bad so sad.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

If corrections also rollover into the next speaking window, Donald could just do his first slot and then go golfing.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Either would be better than what's happening now.

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Would the moderators actually do their job for once and call it out

That's actually not the job of moderators. This idea that moderators should do fact-checking only came about in 2016 because of Trump.

The network probably should have a team of fact-checkers. But fact checking in real time isn't easy.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I would like to have the moderators do anything at all, though, that would be nice. Like cut off a candidate who goes over time. Maybe force candidates to answer the question asked or forfeit their time.

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[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hopefully both, and there's a Lie-O-Meter that determines how truthful a statement is as its being read, and then a counter of provably false statements made

Not like a here is a one in a billion outlier so the truth is a lie. If crime is down, but up in a small, specific area, the statement "crime is down" would be true.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

"I heard McDonalds has a new menu item now, they're calling them Chicken McTrumplets... Bawk... bawk... bawk... bawk"

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[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 112 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Great. Give Harris the time slot for a big town hall speech and Q&A. Every 15 minutes, read a reminder to everyone watching that Trump declined to debate.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Keep the two podiums and put a wax figure of Trump in a chicken suit behind the other one. Put the camera on it with dead air for a few seconds every time it's his turn to speak.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Use cheap, low density wax and it'll slowly melt under the studio lights over to course of the program, which would be hilarious.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The chicken suit is too on the nose. And a cardboard cutout is probably way cheaper than a wax statue.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's no such thing as "too" on the nose when it comes to needling Trump and his gaggle of dipshits.

I agree with the cardboard cutout part, though: half-assed shoddiness represents him more authentically and he deserves no better.

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Ice sculpture so as the night progresses the sculpture gets sadder looking.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am betting that she will be there whether he is or not. No reason to miss an opportunity like that.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just do the debate, give his time to a ticker that just says “trump was too scared to be here, I concede the rest of my time.” For every question.

Seems fair.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Christopher Hitchens once debated himself on religion when his debate opponent didn't show up. It was pretty brilliant.

I'm trying to find the YouTube video, but I can't find it.

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[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I didn't expect this meme to come up again so soon. /s

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago

But he wants to debate on Fox. The station that was held legally liable for lying for him. The station that has to admit to being "entertainment" not news. Yeah, that's a better choice.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. Donald is too weak and cowardly.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

It's the bone spurs

[–] d33pblu3g3n3@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

Donald Trump is a coward. But we all knew that already.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

Why did Donald Trump cross the road?

He was running away from a debate with Harris.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Keep running you fucking coward

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm so glad they don't have any time to replace him. Almost every right leaning person I know is so irritable and volatile lately. They know what's coming

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Republicans cannot replace Trump. He's got the party by the balls. His daughter in law is the chair of the party.

He's also funneling all donations to the party into his own pocket.

When Trump loses, the Republican party will implode under all the fraud. I'm all for it.

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[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 weeks ago
[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Orange Chicken

[–] Wildfathom9@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Trump considers dropping out of having his dumb ass handed to him.

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Make him afraid some more

St. Alia of the Knife

[–] teft@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Fear is the mind killer, as they say. And trump doesn't have much mind so it shouldn't take much fear.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

What an absolute coward. Isn't it the conservative maga "tough guy" crowd who calls everybody pussies? Is trump not being a total pussy?

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 weeks ago

Trump just upset because it turns out facts don't care about his feelings.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He can’t do the debate because of woke. And bone spurs.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Woke is old and busted now - DEI is where they're at now. Still the same meaningless racist nonsense the way they use it though.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"What we really need is an honest debate with principled moderators on a network built on trust and seeking veracity of all claims: Fox News! Only the most Trustworthy™ will do, Sean Hannity and Laura Inbread... wait... Ingrate... No.... Ingram! Right right Ingram."

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No where near enough random capitalization to make that believable.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

I think literally everyone called this one.

Like, even his biggest supporters didn't expect him to not chicken out.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

lol what a bitch

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bok Bok Bok

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, Don Old is dropping out of a debate (again) with Harris? Weird

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Smells like his adult diapers are already full ;-)

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