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[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Omg but imagine if we burnt coal to power a steam piston to make it faster. Then we wouldn't even need kites!

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Think of all the people you could employ shoveling coal.

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

giant kites

So CNN and some tech bros discovered sailing. Humanity is saved

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago

A ship powered by the wind? It'll never work.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Giant kites" is indeed how an alien, or a child, might describe a sail.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only if they don't realize that kites are actually a real propulsion method distinct from sails. Kite propelled ships look nothing like sailing ships.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nonsense, they clearly mean to leash giant birds of prey to the ship and have it pulled by a team of them.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what they're doing to cut emissions from planes, dummy. Cars are going to use horses.

[–] odium@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

And spacecraft by teams of tardigrades

[–] teft@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Dugongs. They’re more majestic.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

For once the article title is quite accurate, when they say "giant kite" they means something like that: A giant kite

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And it powers an engine, it doesn't pull the boat

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, it does pull the boat like a sail.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I misread the news headline and for a moment I thought it said "giant kitties could pull cargo ships", and my brain delivered a very different picture than the article did ...

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one lmao

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fun fact: The very last commercial windjammer ships retired around 1950.

[–] superkret 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] superkret 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but it still has a 5500 horsepower diesel engine "for punctuality of service".

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For those who are wondering, this is actually what they're referring to:

[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No Quercus necessary, you have my attention.
And is that a hydrogen fuel cell? Cool!
Does that say "salt sugar deionizer"?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Shrug, they been talking about this since the 90's...

If it was feasible and economically viable. It would have happened already.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

The reason is because the company that operates a shipping vessel often doesn't own the ship--they charter it. It would be the owner that pays for the fancy wind propulsion systems but only the charterer would benefit from the reduced fuel costs. Owner-operators of shipping vessels sometimes do have a supplemental wind propulsion system.

[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

Not that we went anywhere, mateys.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I know people working on that. It works great. The one problem they still have is the recovery and folding of the sail.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Pfft, why reel it in. Just sail by and yeet the cargo onto the shore with a trebuchet.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know some people will suggest to just let it go fly away into the ocean because a new kite is cheaper than recovering the kite.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

People who have no idea how expensive sails are.

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

If only they could attach the sail to some kind of pole connected to the ship, so that this isn't an issue. Ridiculous, I know.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Is there a sea shanty memes in the 'verse?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've seen these kite-based attempts, but I kinda wonder what a 21st century tall ship would look like? Start talking about dacron or kevlar sails with carbon fiber yards and amsteel lines all run by winches by computer control.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

kevlar sales

This is going to show up in some prepper's search results and he's gonna be so confused.

phuq. Correcting...

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

There's a French company that is doing this, they've settled on a pair of rigid sails for their first ship. I saw an article saying that they've started construction, but the only images of the ship itself are all rendered so I guess it's not operational yet.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Perhaps we could consider equipping them with emission cannons that blast particulates into the air to keep the temps down. 🫡👍

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago