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[–] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 253 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My personal favorite response to that question is “a person who covers their drink when you enter the room”

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I’m stealing both of these.

Also trying to workshop::

Oh they don’t have them on your planet?

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like it, but that's like a 1960s sitcom tier insult. It's too cute to infuriate.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 31 points 2 weeks ago

They have 1960s sitcom mentality. Wouldn't hurt to give it a try.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

how about, "a person who doesn't want to have sex with you."

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't work. I'm sure plenty of queer men would be too disgusted by them to want to have sex with them either.

[–] TheWorldRolledMe@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What about 'I'll ask your mom what she thinks when I see her tonight'?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Better: "I'll ask your dad what she thinks when I see her tonight."

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago

"Someone who chooses the bear over you."

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I like "Well, I'm a straight male, so anything that turns me on is a woman, ma'am."

Name totally checks out.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ooooh, that's so subtle and brilliant, they'll be destroyed for life! Added bonus is it zings for all the alphabet.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Seems like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

They're not honestly curiously asking anything.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

They tried to do a gotcha. Badly. And got gotcha'ed for it.

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[–] bender223@lemmy.today 59 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I saw this clip. It was amazing the way that kid just dismisses Charlie Kirk with his response and how he just walked away.

Kirk's face was in shock, cuz he got owned so bad. Mofo couldn't think of anything smart to say except something from another right wing grifter. 🤦

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 weeks ago

The right wing really capitalized on the left's good faith approach, for a very long time. Now that younger people that grew up on the internet are a much larger component of the left's base, they don't seem to know how to "own us" anymore. We're used to this sea lioning bullshit, and won't put up with it.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for the context. I never know what the youtube bigots look like.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 56 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nah. There are plenty of women who do not make my dick hard. To paraphrase Richard Pryor, I wouldn't fuck Melania Trump with your dick.

I have no idea why anyone wanted to see her naked. Bleah.

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only if you're a himbo on the level of Johnny Bravo.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The ftm equivalent is "What is a man?" And the proper response is "A miserable little pile of secrets".

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

But enough talk... Have at you!

[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Alternative responses:

  • "Yeah, it makes sense that you wouldn't know."
  • "A human. Did you seriously not know that?"
  • "Are you coming on to me?"

Are you coming on to me?”

I've actually used "I'm flattered, but I'm not into guys, sorry." and when immediately he got pissy and insisted he isn't gay and wasn't asking me out, "It's okay, you don't have to hide who you are, I'm simply not interested." and at that point my patience and certainty they wouldnt try to deck me were out the door, along with myself.

A musical theater performance was probably not the best place for the guy to be attempting to ragebait.

10/10 responses, I'd add in "If you have to ask, maybe you should get out more" which I guess is similar to "Makes sense you wouldn't know"

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago

Your first option is best. Insulting comeback that isn't open-ended. It ends it so you can move on. The other options are asking for a response, including the OP one.

[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

You could always go jeopardy style of "what is someone who doesn't want to sleep with you"

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is the answer not “A miserable little pile of secrets”?

Then men are no different.

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[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Personally I think the "woke" definition of a woman (if there even is one) is much more straightforward than the alternative. This idea that the left "can't define a woman" is absurd projection - the very people who ask this question are the ones who can't define it without having to make 100s of exceptions.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

yep "someone who identifies as a woman" doesn't need to have caveats. every biological argument has to have many.

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[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What are three douchebags doing at the DNC? I’ve seen pics/vids of this idiot & the weirdo beard one w the costume Matt Walsh & then the undercover boss my pillow guy, also in costume. Ragebait, I assume?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. But imagine the screaming if they hadn't been allowed in.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago

Okay. I imagined it. It gave me happiness. What next?

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Language is an imperfect medium with inherent limitations, intended to convey thoughts from the mind of one person to another. Thus, context is critical. The tragedy of humans not being telepathic.

A large portion of this argument is between two factions trying to have a complex discussion regarding at least four different things using only two words; male and female. The discussion however expands to biology, stereotypes, gender norms, rights, etc.

To me, everyone arguing is a moron for trying to have a discussion without first agreeing on axioms and vocabulary. Male and female are not enough words for a discussion involving this many variables.

It's like, hey, please reconcile general relativity, quantum mechanics, and metaphysics using only X and Y. It just screams absurdity.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You might want to look at Wittgenstein.

In his early work he went hard on this approach, and insisted that "hey philosophy is dumb", just agree on the definitions and then chase through the implications.

In his later work he realised that this is impossible. Words have contextual meaning that is revealed by their usage and you can't nail down full and complete definitions in advance.

What you're talking about absolutely can and will never work. We have tried it and seen it fail.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It isn't for me to define, and there are more important things in life to focus on.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A "woman" is a label. It's a social construct.

As such, while you and I may have some idea of what we think a woman is, it's not really something that can be given a concrete definition the way these people seem to think it needs.

The meta of gender is simply the way we see eachother and not something that can be measured. It's felt.

It's a lot like trying to build a concrete definition for intelligence. What is intelligence? How can it be measured? IQ tests are one way, but they're pretty much universally regarded as inaccurate at best.

Whatever intelligence is, these rage baiters don't have it.

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Here is the answer to that question:

Until recently, a woman was defined as someone who was born a biological female.

Now, as definitions change, a woman is defined as a person who identifies with the role of the previous definition of woman.

Language is descriptive, not prescriptive.

[–] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago (88 children)

That's not what the definition has changed to. Women can be women without identifying with that traditional role. A woman is someone who identifies as a woman. I am a woman, and I certainly don't identify with the role of a traditional woman.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

"I'll take someone who wouldn't talk to you if they were trapped in an elevator with you for $500 Alex."

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

In my experience it's so they can listen to exactly nothing you say in response and then say "oh you've totally been brainwashed" before refuting points I never even came close to making.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

"Someone you've never had consensual sex with."

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