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[–] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 171 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank god, for a second there I thought they meant "cracking down on people dodging Windows 11 by intentionally disabling TPM," like I've been doing. False alarm, carry on.

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[–] superkret 159 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If you're using Windows 11 and not having a great time with it, there are ways to make the experience more pleasant. We've covered 14 tweaks to make Windows 11 better and how to remove Windows 11's junk, which is a good start toward making an OS you enjoy.

There's another way...

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 91 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Imagine having to remove a bunch of shit just so you can use your OS. smh

Luckily, there exists an OS which undermines extreme enshittification. Can't remember the name, though ...

[–] Metalemming@lemm.ee 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can’t remember the name, though

It goes by many names...

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 126 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

So Microsoft wants to force everyone to ditch their perfectly good machines so they can make more money off of selling OEM licenses.

I'm just waiting for Europe to sue their greedy asses for planned obsolescence.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 27 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

I can't tell you how many Apple devices I've had that have become unsupported over the years.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 85 points 3 weeks ago

“By god we have got to stop people from using Windows!”

Uh. Yes. Do that.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 71 points 3 weeks ago

And here I am using a modern Linux OS on a 15 year old desktop without any issues or nagging to log into an online account or to backup all my shit to some server, open to hackers, in windows world.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm 50 points 3 weeks ago

No problem, I'm just dodging windows.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Used market is about to have some bargains on very usable Linux machines.

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[–] thearch@sh.itjust.works 47 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

wants people to use windows 11 make it difficult to use windows 11 people find ways to use windows 11 anyway (what you wanted in the first place) punish them for using windows 11

???

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People that are running a windows modified to disable the hardware eligibility checks are probably also disabling/deleting the telemetry and activation checks.

Microsoft doesn't want you to use windows 11, they want your money and data.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If you must use Windows, download it legitimately from MS website. Use RUFUS to burn the ISO image to a USB. Remove the restrictions you hate.

Dual boot a Linux variant, and move over apps at your leisure, until you are no longer Win OS dependent.

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[–] vortexal@sopuli.xyz 43 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The thing that I don't understand is that, if this is such a big problem for Microsoft, why not just remove the system requirements or at least make an alternative version of Windows 11 that, even if it lacks certain features, doesn't have those requirements?

Microsoft wants people to switch to Windows 11 but a majority stay with Windows 10 because their systems don't have what's required and they're either not willing to use Linux or they can't for what ever their reason is. Making Windows 11 more accessible to Windows 10 users would fix this problem for most users but they're not for some reason. I know they're Microsoft and Microsoft doesn't care about their users but they're seemingly willing to lose a significant portion of their users over something so insignificant, which is out of character for Microsoft.

[–] myliltoehurts@lemm.ee 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd guess it's corporate circlejerk - they probably made deals with hardware manufacturers who are annoyed people are not replacing their perfectly functional systems with new ones. Windows gets pre-installed on new systems, and in exchange windows requires new things forcing people to upgrade their old systems - or be locked out of the most popular OS in the world.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

but it seems that the Redmond giant has decided that enough is enough.

But why? People who take the effort have their reasons, find other ways.

Btw, Rufus patches the iso, works anyway.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

M$ want to become even more unpopular with private users.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

microsoft missed their bottom line so they need more planned obscelance

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Well, they won't be able to sell as many new computers if they let people keep using their old ones.

[–] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Microsoft still makes money off the OEM licenses AFAIK. The Linux community had a whole day about this back in the 90s.

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[–] hydroxycotton@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I installed Linux mint on my laptop the other day because of various sustained long term annoyances with Windows. Despite some minor hiccups it only took about 30 minutes. It's been such a great experience so far.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Install Linux, be done with anything from Microsoft

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Hey man, I think your keyboard is broken.

Every single reply you have made in this thread is just the exact same thing.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 31 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Is there a way to make my PC seemingly not support Windows 11 so the annoying update nags go away? I'll never use that shit OS.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Disable tpm in bios

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Good! The less PC's that run W11 the better

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is secure boot still required? Yes?

Can't force me to do shit Microsoft. Your own OS prevents it :)

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You're misunderstanding, they're stopping people like you and me who don't have those.oj their PCs from upgrading via workarounds, not preventing us from a forced upgrade.

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[–] funchords@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 weeks ago

Fighting with Windows 11 introduced me to Linux Mint, which works perfectly! I'm not an OS geek, so I really don't care about the OS -- it's just the thing I deal with on the way to Firefox.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 26 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

More people will be redirect to Linux, cool.

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[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not all that long ago I was told by someone who claimed to be an expert that a 3 year old middle of the road gaming laptop was to old to support win 10 and that's why it was crashing all the time, Linux may not be perfect in every way but Windows is dying a slow, painful, e-waste generating death and Microsoft doesn't seem to care, I'm glad I jumped ship when I did

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I just installed Linux Mint on a 15-year-old desktop that has never been upgraded and was middle-of-the-road when I got it. It shipped with Windows 7, and I tried a couple of times to upgrade to 10 (it failed every time, either losing core hardware functionality, running so slowly as to be unusable, or just refusing to boot altogether). But it runs Linux like a dream. Seriously—it's easily running the latest version of Mint better than it ran an 11-year-old service pack of Windows 7.

What's even crazier is that I installed VirtualBox on it, and put Windows 10 on that, to use some work programs. And that runs Windows 10 a bit slowly, but otherwise more or less flawlessly!

That's right: I'm having a better Windows experience in Linux than I've ever had on baremetal Windows on this box.

I can't believe I didn't do this...well, 15 years ago.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

Every 2nd microsoft OS is bad. Its normal for them. XP good, vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Article isn’t that great. The change is in beta, and it’s preventing the installer from accepting a switch that declares the OS to be a server product.

MS hasn’t said it’s going after any upgrades that are running out of spec hardware. This really sounds like they are just fixing an upgrade option.

[–] WILSOOON@programming.dev 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As far as i know, windows 10 is still more functional, less of a resource hog (in windows terms), far FAR less telemetry and it just looks fucking nicer. It costs nothing to not upgrade, or you pay the tribute and join the linux brotherhood

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm sorry is this the fucking draft

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean, this was 100% predictable.

And anyone who didnt think it would happen were willfully blind or just plain ignorant.

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