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Hi those from all! We're a women's only community, men we appreciate your interest but please do not comment 😊
I imagine this is going to be difficult for you to run. The website is heavily weighted towards men and a very particular kind of man at that. I congratulate you on your endeavour and optimism and that is not sarcasm. A lot of women's sites are slowly eroded away until they disappear. Here's hoping we last out
Thanks mate. We've been blessed with some amazing women posters and some lovely men have commented to show support. It can be difficult but so far we're coping
I worked in a gift shop, one thing we sold was lotions/creams and had testers on the counter. Then one day the boss brought in some magnifying mirrors, 3x on one side and 10x on the other. We set up one on the counter. Every woman looked into that 10x mirror and their face fell. Then they'd sigh and grab a tester and pat cream into their face. We sold a lot of cream and lotion, and all the mirrors! But I hated it. I was glad when they were gone, because I didn't like having a bunch of depressed customers. And I certainly didn't want to keep catching glimpses of my own face in there! Every tiny crevice looked enormous, like I was 100 years old.
I spent so much time in front of mirrors like that as a teenager, obsessing about every black-head and pimple, etc.
Oh lord that says it all!
I'm pretty sure if everyone stopped buying purses, women would finally get pockets in their clothes.
I boycott clothes without pockets. It's improved my life 1000%
well at least they get fake pockets
It's the dream!
The more "ugly" and "fat" they can make you feel, the more money they can snatch from you!
And they very quickly change the beauty standard goal posts.
It's a never-ending carousel of horror! 🎠🔥
Off of the top of my head:
The diet industry is definitely invested in having women hate our bodies. An actual lifelong healthy diet does not require their products
I can believe this. Once I started appreciating myself, I didn’t need to buy so many potions, makeup, or any other weird thing that men think we need.
Insecurity is the driving force behind all lifestyle marketing, especially clothing and cosmetics.
I'm worried your post body could make trans men (ftm) feel unwelcome here. Rule 1 is that anyone under the trans umbrella is welcome, so you should probably be careful about language that either excludes trans men, or implies they're not real men.
Rule 1 says "any woman-identified person" is welcome here -- can you explain how this includes trans men? But I could see bigender people feeling unwelcome from "men ... please do not comment" and that'd be bad.
Edit: nvm, just realized that rule 1 was changed.
I know it can be hard to understand, but trans men sometimes remain members of lesbian and women communities even after transition and may even struggle with their identity this way. Reading Stone Butch Blues might provide some insight, as Leslie Feinberg was precisely one of those trans men who struggled with giving up their identity as a lesbian, and detransitioned and remained on that fuzzy line between man and lesbian.
This space isn't here to exclude women like that, even if they are men. They have lived experience as women, they live as women, they might identify as women, and so on.
Binary trans men who don't feel the need to continue identifying as women and who no longer have lived experience as women may see themselves as men and not participate based on that rule, but it's not because they are trans but because they are men who do not feel a need to identify and remain in a community of women.
Bigender people and nonbinary people who identify as women are likewise free to post and comment here. The rule is meant to create a safe space for women, and we believe people who identify and live as women do not contradict this.
The rules should be updated to include trans-men then, I think -- the rule seems very clearly worded to exclude trans men.
Any woman-identified person under the trans umbrella (e.g. non-binary, bigender, agender) is welcome.
^ this wording of the rule includes trans men who still identify as women. To be honest it hasn't been a problem, the rules are worded to allow them to choose whether they identify still as women or not and whether to participate here. Binary trans men who don't identify as women are men, and we would handle that on a case-by-case basis depending on the context. (Trans experiences and identities are complicated. If a trans man feels the need to discuss their life before transition when they lived as a woman, we aren't going to prevent them from commenting, this is largely a space for people who are treated as women in society afterall.)
To be honest the rule is mostly applied to cis men who ignore the rules and frequently comment here and sometimes get aggressive. We don't tolerate transphobia and are not trans-exclusive.
Thanks I thought it was clear from the fact that we're women only. I've edited it now
Ah. Well, I'm no longer welcome according to the rules as I'm agender, but before I go I should warn you that you could also make bigender people feel unwelcome. I have a friend who's a man and a woman at the same time.
I'd say it's equally true of most industries.