Hi those from all! We're a women's only community, men we appreciate your interest but please do not comment 😊
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- Women only… trans women are women, and transphobic or gender critical talk isn’t allowed. Any woman-identified person under the trans umbrella (e.g. non-binary, bigender, agender) is welcome.
- Don’t be a dick. No personal attacks, no aggression, play nice.
- Don’t hate on groups, hatefilled talk about groups is not allowed. Ever.
- No governmental politics, so no talk of Trump actions etc. We recommend Feminism@beehaw.org for that, but here is an escape from it.
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Rule 1 says "any woman-identified person" is welcome here -- can you explain how this includes trans men? But I could see bigender people feeling unwelcome from "men ... please do not comment" and that'd be bad.
Edit: nvm, just realized that rule 1 was changed.
I know it can be hard to understand, but trans men sometimes remain members of lesbian and women communities even after transition and may even struggle with their identity this way. Reading Stone Butch Blues might provide some insight, as Leslie Feinberg was precisely one of those trans men who struggled with giving up their identity as a lesbian, and detransitioned and remained on that fuzzy line between man and lesbian.
This space isn't here to exclude women like that, even if they are men. They have lived experience as women, they live as women, they might identify as women, and so on.
Binary trans men who don't feel the need to continue identifying as women and who no longer have lived experience as women may see themselves as men and not participate based on that rule, but it's not because they are trans but because they are men who do not feel a need to identify and remain in a community of women.
Bigender people and nonbinary people who identify as women are likewise free to post and comment here. The rule is meant to create a safe space for women, and we believe people who identify and live as women do not contradict this.
The rules should be updated to include trans-men then, I think -- the rule seems very clearly worded to exclude trans men.
^ this wording of the rule includes trans men who still identify as women. To be honest it hasn't been a problem, the rules are worded to allow them to choose whether they identify still as women or not and whether to participate here. Binary trans men who don't identify as women are men, and we would handle that on a case-by-case basis depending on the context. (Trans experiences and identities are complicated. If a trans man feels the need to discuss their life before transition when they lived as a woman, we aren't going to prevent them from commenting, this is largely a space for people who are treated as women in society afterall.)
To be honest the rule is mostly applied to cis men who ignore the rules and frequently comment here and sometimes get aggressive. We don't tolerate transphobia and are not trans-exclusive.
Fair enough. I'm not trans so I can't really say whether or not it makes sense. Just surprised me.