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Miller appeared on Fox News on Sunday, where he went off on a rant about the Democratic votes were thrown away as the party rallies around Vice President Kamala Harris.

"They held a primary. They had ballots. They filled out circles!" Miller shouted on Fox News. "They went to the voting booths. They spent money on advertisements!"

Still yelling, Miller says that Republicans also spent money running against Biden.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 110 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That’s because they had their whole “old man bad” thing planned out for the next 4 months.

Nazi rhetoric falls apart when you take away the boogie man. No sleepy Joe, no laptop or emails or some bullshit. They have to come up with something new. He is scared, because they are incapable of talking about actual issues.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

More than that, as fucking tepid a choice as Kamala Harris is to me, I have almost no doubt in my mind she can kick Donald's ass at a debate. She is an older, half-african-american-half-asian-american woman -- yeah, my money says she can both out-sass and out-maneuver him. That's gonna be a show worth watching (and the entire country will be) so be ready for September 10th. We gon' see some shit.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's assuming the debate actually happens... I think it's more likely than not that Trump will try to weasel out of a debate with Harris — probably blaming some bullshit concerns about venue security or something like that in order to milk his shooting for all it's worth.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is exactly what i expect will happen, right down to the security concerns

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

I agree, but I think he'll try to lay the blame on the Democrats while doing so.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Oww! My ear spurs! From where I took that bullet for America and stuff, y'all! I better skip the debate. Doctor's orders!"

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I wonder how long Trump's going to wear the ear bandage for. It's be hilarious if he never took it off.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, they have a file on everyone, it's not like there's noting they can use to criticise Harris with. They'll probably reuse half the Obama playbook as well (birth certificate, use a dark filter on all images of her, something about terrorist parents, ...). I have no doubts they can start spreading a bunch of fresh lies between now and November.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if they started calling her a “crooked cop” or something. Based on the same zero evidence they’ve given for calling Joe crooked.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well, there goes the Hunter Biden thing.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I've started to see birther rumblings though idk if that one will get traction

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Little skeevy bald Nazi man is sad.

🎻here’s a tiny violin for little skeevy bald Nazi man.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been very much thinking that Biden had the best chance to win, mostly due to name recognition, and that switching candidates would be a bad idea because there isn't a lot of time left for campaigning. I didn't think Joe was necessarily the best person to be president (given the options), but I did think he had the most exposure and was most likely to collect votes.

But I didn't really consider that switching candidates might seriously upset the Republican campaigning strategy. This could work. As long as the Democrats line up behind Kamala and don't fragment, this risk might pay off.

[–] memfree@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 month ago

I'm tickled pink! All 50 Democratic party chairs endorse Harris already. ActBlue got $47 million today in just 7 hours from Biden stepping out. The world looks a little brighter when Steven Miller doesn't get his way.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The democrats should've had a real primary with actual debates. That would've exposed the Biden situation way earlier and would've given the eventual candidate a democratic mandate. Biden dropping out now isn't ideal, but now is better than later, it was only going to get worse.

The ideal scenario would've been for Biden to keep his word about him being a transitional candidate that would step aside after one term.

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t know if that as a theory works out in practice. You never primary a sitting first term President. It would arguably have looked worse if he walked away after one. It would look like the Dems don’t take the office seriously. This way he’s been forced out, which shows how seriously he and the party have wanted to win this one.

This pivot has caught the GOP on the hop, their strategy in its entirety is ad-hominem attacks on Biden. They’ve lost the one play they had as evidenced by Stephen Miller’s melting down on tv on behalf of Dem primary voters (of all people) I’m not certain if Dems had opened the floor to candidates, or even if they’d straight up put Harris at the top of the ticket at the outset, that we’d be feeling as positive and hopeful as the donor base clearly is today. Is America ready to elect its first woman of color President? I’d say we’re closer today than any day in history. 10-12 months of media and bigots doing their thing to angry up the blood and sell airtime to advertisers would have made Hillary’s run look like a picnic at the park. Not to mention the anuswrinkle’s circus and his flying monkeys throwing their own faeces about wherever they go. The primary voters in ‘16 were so pissy about not getting their pick (feel the Bern and co.) there was never united support behind Hillary and in doing so that lack of unity handed anuswrinkle his throne for 4 years.

Sadly I think VP Harris is in for a particularly nasty barrage of that vitriolic, insecure, and ignorant shitshow, but it’s going to be an abridged version. There are only so many minutes and so many column inches between now and November, I think time is on her side.

This happening at such a late date has forced party unity out of necessity. There is no time to complain about the what ifs. The whole party machine has to pivot and consolidate in a sprint for the next 3 months - they’re too busy to do anything but rally. The party operatives are all “in the trenches” together now and this may very well turn out to be the best of all possible timelines for 2024.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t know if that as a theory works out in practice. You never primary a sitting first term President. It would arguably have looked worse if he walked away after one. It would look like the Dems don’t take the office seriously.

What the fuck do I have to do around here to find somebody who "won't take the office seriously" like that? Resurrect the Federalist Party?

A Cincinnatus/George Washington mentality is exactly what I want in an executive!

[–] TheLameSauce@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I hate this rhetoric in general of "this is how it has to be done, we never deviate from the way we've always done it".

Cause the status quo has just been great, hasn't it everyone? What "worked" in all previous instances of less than 50 presidencies over the span of almost 250 years will surely continue to work in every context of the modern and future eras. Surely.

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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, you know, if you guys had spent that money talking about how you were going to "make America great again" instead of on slinging mud at Joe Biden, none of it would have been wasted and you'd be ahead of the curve, wouldn't you? Maybe instead of crying like a little bitch, you start figuring out how you're going to sell your miserable agenda to the American people?

[–] memfree@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are trying very hard not to mention Project 2025 (bullet points). They're even saying they won't really do that stuff... while standing with the authors. They know most Americans are against their stuff, so they talk about anything OTHER than their plan to: eliminate the Department of Education, cut and overhaul Medicaid, roll back the recent law banning surprise medical billing, and revoke FDA approval of the abortion pill mifepristone, and so many other horrible things. Instead, they're gonna mispronounce Kamala's name and make fun of her laugh.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't it be cool if both our political parties had ambitious plans for the future?

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On the contrary, the GOP is trying its best to hid its Agenda 47/Project 2025.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

"I do not endorse the large, comprehensive document that many of my current and former staffers were involved in writing. Now let's get back to defeating Sleepy Joe Biden." - Trump

[–] wreel@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This sounds like they slept on oppo research and message testing for anyone but Biden and now they realize they're at square one.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is this not just a continuation of the same old plan to characterize everything Democrats do as cheating so they get to say the election was stolen again?

[–] wreel@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That messaging works to keep their base engaged but capturing low-information swing voters is a bit trickier.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Every Republican accusation is an admission.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They're going to recycle the same bullshit talking points anyway. They don't need research

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now is a good time to test the candidates on mental acuity, and ability to put together coherent sentences.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

God, let's hope so! I can't wait for "Sleepy Kamala is so old, she's senile! Her golf game is terrible! Her son has nudes on a laptop!"

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Modern conservative malice is matched only by modern conservative ineptitude.

There isn't a way to reject all facts and data about the world you don't like and still remain competent. You can't send someone to the moon by rage tweeting that NASA shouldn't exist and building a giant slingshot because it feels like the right way to do it.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Tell me you don't have a platform that people will vote for without telling me that you don't have a platform that people will vote for.

They were running against Biden, not on their policy objectives other than racist and nationalist dog whistles

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Every Who down in Who-ville, the tall and the small,

Was singing! Without any presents at all!

He HADN'T stopped Christmas from coming! IT CAME!

Somehow or other, it came just the same!

And the Grinch, with his grinch-feet ice-cold in the snow,

Stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

'It came without ribbons! It came without tags!

It came without packages, boxes or bags!'

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be perfectly honest, I’d be quite amused if Stephen Miller was not ok.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Delighted, even

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sorry. If anything other then non-committed vote happened during these "primaries" I would have been there. Also, fuck you you can't force someone to run you god damn idiot.

[–] KreekyBonez@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

you can't force someone to run you god damn idiot

it takes some serious kompromat to pull that off

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Goebbels is mad.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

He helped author Project 2025, as well as run Trump's whole immigration and deportation system. He would have made such a Nazi, you can just see it in him.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My obligatory "I Went To The Same High School In The Same Year As That Prick". -_-

Didn't really know him though. My dad mostly likes to rub it in like salt in a wound.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

He's not your cross to bear. I can't be responsible for the insufferable pricks in my cohort, that's for sure.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Guys like Miller can't understand the idea of self-sacrifice if there's no money or personal gain to be had, later. He's frustrated because he can't figure out the "angle" and it's no more complicated than for the good of the nation. And that's a completely alien idea to him.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Hush little baby don't you cry, that Steve Miller's not outside~

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