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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Me and my bro about to shoot the shit out of some drones

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 3 months ago

We need more Orky thinking around here,

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Shotguns are ineffective against drones more than 100ish yards away. ISR drones commonly work well beyond this distance. Shotguns are also ineffective against FPV drones because their high speed demands marksmanship and fast reflexes in order to hit them. Shotguns don't work against any of them in the dark because you can't see them.

So the take-a-way here is that we need to shrink Patriot Batteries down to fit in a backpack and make 100,000 units so we an assign them at the platoon level.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 34 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Still can't see in the dark. That's why we need backpack patriot batteries.

[–] aido@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, you misunderstand. BIGGER shotguns.

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't need to see in the dark if you fill the entire sky with shotgun pellets

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You need to think bigger, rods of god buckshot.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty impressed - God

[–] MaggiWuerze 1 points 3 months ago

How big would a tungsten ball need to be to survive reentry?

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Torch scanning the sky, what could possibly go wrong

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Bigger shotguns with infrared sights.

[–] aLiteral_potato@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Ks 23 with rednecked proximity fused 23mm FRAG rounds. Wait did we come full circle?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Also: MORE shotguns

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Gauge 1 shotguns letsgo!

[–] wdx 2 points 3 months ago

What about weaponised fibsh?

[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

WW1 Germans: “Hey, that’s cheating!”

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ve declare it a war crime.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Goddamnit Jim the Krauts are saying stupid shit about knowing war crimes. Go get the Canadian, the French Canadian.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Sure a buckshot works great against a drone or two, but what do you do when there's a swarm of them? We're getting to that level of sophistication with them pretty quickly.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Does that thing have two triggers???

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

Sometimes you just need a little more gun.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mounted automatic shotgun versions of antiaircraft guns.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you invented a flak cannon

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 11 points 3 months ago

I thought flak cannons were airburst!

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Well then you need a swarm of shotguns, obviously.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

IIRC that was truely noncredible IRL, and couldn't get funding.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Shotgun CWIS, obviously

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You either need more guns or more range, I guess. Swarming the other guy first is also an option, or sending drones after the drones, although you lose any cost advantage that way.

I know the is NCD, but it sounds like the professional military thinkers are expecting things to keep shifting towards emphasis on mobility and concealment, just because the post-identification kill chain is getting so foolproof.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You use a swarm of shotguns!

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds cool. Gimmi some sauce on shotgun takedowns

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Man, the Russians are engaged in an all out war, and the Ukrainians are out there having the time of their lives!

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

!birdsarentreal@lemmy.world

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is a shotgun really only $200?

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

I haven't looked in a while but you could get used Remington 870s (an extremely popular shotgun) for around $200 all day on armslist.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Depends on the model and store you buy it from, but you definitely can buy some hunting shotguns in the 200-250USD range.

[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That 88 is an amazing shotgun for the money too. It has interchangeable barrels, so you can use an 18" barrel for home defense, and even add a pistol grip for that config if you want, then it has a long, vented, hunting barrel, with threaded interchangeable chokes that accept anything made for the Browning Invictor choke. You can take the hunting plug out of the shell tube and hold up to six shells. They're reliable, lightweight, accurate, powerful, and have pretty good recoil pads. They're made by Mossberg in the Mossberg factory. Oh, and like we were saying, they're dirt cheap!

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago

So pretty credible?

[–] letme_meowmeow@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

A slingshot will work tooo. Let's try it.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

I'm so disappointed that we finally got these enormous sci-fi "electric rifles" and all they do is make RC toys land safely.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I could, and did.

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