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Looking for both philosophical and real world examples including situation-specific ones like one field of study that it would versus another where it wouldn't. Idk I'm bored as shit and wanna discuss something.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 month ago

Idk why it wouldn't be considered cheating? If it violates the conditions of the exam process, then it would be cheating. I don't see how that would change if the medium changed.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exactly.

Like, maybe OP is thinking bodily autonomy would protect you? Sure, I don't think anyone can stop you from doing this, but they can still flunk you out of the exam if you do, or at least demand you cover them. In the same vein, Starbucks doesn't hire people with face tattoos.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

When I was in high school, I wrote a TI-86 program in BASIC to do geography/physics formulae. Like β€œfind the volume of a cube” and then it would ask you for the variables and solve for whichever one was missing.

My teachers found out and actually ruled it not cheating because I wrote the program myself and hadn’t shared it with everyone. (I eventually became a computer programmer so they were probably right.)

So, I’d say by that precedent, as long as you gave yourself the tattoo and learned a new trade, it’s fine. But looking at a friend’s tattoo would be cheating.

[–] xep@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think the difference here is being able to program a solver for formulae implies an understanding of the formulae being solved, specifically the ones the exam tests for. I'm not sure your teachers would have given you credit for tattooing some formula on your chest.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I wrote programs to solve statistics questions on my calculator, which was apparently fine at in class but not allowed for exams

The invigilators would go around checking your calculator had been cleared and reset before the exam.

So i wrote a program that replicated the reset screen. Totally worked. Didn't use my stats program in the exam anyway.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I programmed my TI-83 with some basic maths programs but we all had to wipe the memory before exams. I still miss the tetris game i had on that thing :(

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would be cheating unless you didn't know they would become answers to a test in the future.

[–] Epzillon@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the most banger tattoo though. Random answers to a test that could potentially exist in the future.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And the exam is life. The tattoo? 42

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Practically they would probably make you cover the tattoo up to take the exam.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think any math teacher who sees you tattooed a formula on yourself and doesn't let you look at it is an absolute dickhead. (Assuming the dickhead won't allow formula sheets)

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can't really make the argument that you won't have the formula to reference in the future when you need it...

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

This is what I'm saying!

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Yes, don't do it it's pretty dumb.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I had a classmate who had the identity matrix tattooed on his wrist. Proctors made him wear a bandage over it. There was also a t-shirt made by the math facility with a bunch of equations that was banned from exams.

I don't think either would actually be of real help (these were for second year math courses) but the profs considered it a matter of principal.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

See this was kinda at the core of the question (but I wasn't really able to articulate it at the time). What if someone was just a huge enough nerd that they were already walking around with some kind of reference sheet tattooed on?

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the test's purpose is to prove you have retained knowledge, wouldn't a tattoo be a permanent retention of that knowledge?

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

This is what I'm saying. Shit ain't going anywhere now bitches!

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but more importantly, shortsighted unless you do not have to take any exams in the future.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Just tattoo a 3x5 index card over it first.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, but I think you’d gain respect points and thus pass

[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Lol, what did the teenagers do this time?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Not unless I fucked the tattooist.

Rimshot.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

On your body? Yes. On your friend's body? Probably. On your teacher? Maybe not.