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Surely you can see that dressing up as a character like that is different from furries. First of all, there's a lot more people that do that specifically for "halloween" or "for this photoshoot" or "for a con" than "let's go to Target on March 07th dressed as Slave Leia and do creepy stuff" which, yeah, I'd have similar questions about wtf was going on if that was a thing that ever happened. Like yeah if I go to comic con or whatever and people are dressed like comic characters? Ok. If I go to furcon or whatever and see furries, cool. If I go to the coffee shop and see either a furry or someone being creepily sexual as some comic person, you betcha I'm equally creeped out either way. Idk why it seems to be hard for people to parse.
"Ah, you vill not judge me for my kinks, bleh bleh bleh, vatch me suck ze blood from my victims in public, I don't care if you think ve should take it somewhere appropriate! Watch us do ze Mash, ve do ze Monster Mash right here in front ov everyone."
And yeah probably but that's less funny.
Wait, so you're fine with domestic abuse, racism, and making creepy unsolicited comments to women and girls, as long as it isn't in public where you're subjected to it but kept behind closed doors? Huh, well this took an unexpected turn. So, you're one of the nazi furries I see.
Most of society is saying that men doing those things is bad and they should stop, not using them to justify their own immoral behavior subjecting others to their kinks without consent. "Criminals rape people so I should be able to ignore consent too" really isn't a great position to hold.
Btw, sexual assault, racism, domestic violence, and catcalling are not "kinks," something is seriously wrong with you. CNC is, but the first C stands for consensual. Raceplay is, but that also is only between two consenting adults, the rest of the train doesn't need to hear you call your SO the N-word. BDSM sometimes can involve slapping or paddles and the like, but again that is between consenting adults, the train does not need to watch you smack your girlfriend around even if she says "thank you sir may I have another." Catcalling, idk, humiliation or praise kink I guess? Still only ok between consenting adults. Seeing a pattern here? CONSENTING ADULTS. Your absolute disregard for consent is frankly concerning.
That might be part of it, I have to admit people who want to fuck rainbow sprinkles or whatever that MLP horse's name is are also similarly creepy to me. I almost can understand if the cartoon is more humanoid but, like people who were going crazy over rule 34 of that cop rabbit? Dude..little weird, and not in a good way.
I agree those things can coexist, but when for a significant portion of the people it is sexual it is going to taint the meaning naturally. Especially if there's not really a clear delineation, like for example: diapers. There's many people (guaranteed most diaper wearers and I'm only talking adults), for whom it isn't sexual. If you see an old guy with a puff in his pants, you can assume pretty well he just medically needs them. But it's pretty easy to spot someone who, instead of needing them, is one of those ADBL guys if you see them on the subway. For furries, they all look the same, there is no "tell" like a bib and pacifier. If there was, I'd only be creeped out by the sexual ones, but I just can't tell, and the pageantry of it all just makes it all feel more like the ADBL crew.
Oh no I'm not saying "no kink allowed ever," that'd be crazy! I'm just saying "keep kink behind closed doors (at least reasonably, like, a sex club is technically 'public' but it's obviously OK, I mean like not at the park lol.)" Fair about McDonalds haha I haven't been myself in years, just an example of a public place where it's reasonable not to be subjected to others' kinks.
Yeah I do also think the vampire fetishists are pretty creepy, or can be especially depending how into it they are. Bloodplay is actually one of my few hard No's (along with scat because ew, and gun/knifeplay because not "safe"). But if they just want me to wear a cloak and bite their neck a little, and maybe say "I vant to fuck your butt" in a fake Romanian accent, I can work with that (well, can I without laughing remains to be seen lol).
Lol, the stabbing part was more of a joke, and as I said that isn't exclusive to furries but anyone with a full mask/full costume, but since furries fall into that category they're included, the anonymity does make it hard to report things, (which IRL would probably be like they grabbed someone's butt or something but sexual assault isn't as funny as stabbings as far as jokes go).
Very true, but it seems like it's a larger proportion than normal, though I must admit that could simply be because there are more say comic fans than furries, so the nazis are better drowned out, maybe. Still though I've seen enough that on the rare chance I do see another furry in the wild (well, I'll probably just stay away, but barring that) I'd have to figure out if they're one of the horny or racist ones before I feel comfortable with "ah no they seem like a...well not normal person but at least they won't hump my leg or bust out a 'roman salute.'"
How does that even work, btw? The nazi ones are all blonde dogs? Do they hate people who dress as rats/mice? Do they say "the scalies will not replace us?" Lmao sorry I can't resist making fun of nazis here and there haha.
I've said multiple times that this applies to all people, I even included an example of a straight couple exhibiting similarly creepy behaviors in my very first comment.
Frankly it only applies "more" in that there are more "straight people" than furries (which, by the way, is not a sexual orientation. First of all if YOU are to be believed "it isn't sexual" so how the fuck can it be a sexual orientation? Hmm? And second of all there are gay furries and straight furries etc, the sexual orientation is separate from the type of BDSM, latex, fursuit, or leather dog mask and chain an you're wearing.)
Narrow nothing, kink is fine, but it isn't appropriate in public. You just want to subject people to your kink against your will (which btw flies in the face of safe, sane, consensual.)
Kissing and holding hands are widely accepted for straight people to do in public even amongst homophobes.
Amongst non homophobes, this extends to homosexual people.
Wearing fursuits, BDSM leather, latex, etc, is a large sexual step above kissing and holding hands, and are not comparable to those regardless of the sexuality of those kissing, can we at least agree on this? If not we have nothing further to discuss.
Here again in your last bit you attempt to paint me as a homophobe. I have a feeling we're done here dude, you are just full of bad faith arguments and hot air.
In my experience the kind of communists who want to shoot all the anarchists have a detailed knowledge of the history of shooting anarchists and talk openly about the fact that they'll shoot all the anarchists.
Yes, and the one time my mom caught me sneaking out at 1am when I was 16 was totally the only time I ever snuck out.
She still believes that one, too.
Kink in public being gross isn't just a me thing lol, it's a pretty widely shared opinion, just because you want to subject others to your kinks doesn't give you an automatic "I'm not being a creepy gross asshole free" card.
Again, I'm not saying we should imprison them or something like you seem to think, I'm just saying you're gross, creepy, and an asshole for subjecting people to your sexual behavior in public.
Exactly, trying to paint me as a homophobe, by pretending people wearing fursuits is the same as homosexual people "kissing and holding hands" rather than closer to wearing leather or latex. Last I checked homosexuality isn't a fucking costume but by all means imply it, that's your bigotry you aren't aware you have. Again that's on you.
This is a farce lmao, furry != gay, you're operating under a false equivalency, gay is not a fetish and you equating the two is frankly WILD.
It's not unnecessary, you brought it up! Why do you specify gay people kissing or holding hands then in your previous comment? Unnecessary to you right back then. So much "no u." You can't direct a conversation towards gay people just to claim that the guy replying is unnecessarily talking about gay people, that one is on you.
But yes, straight people, like MY ORIGINAL DOMINATRIX/SUB EXAMPLE, and the video I sent of the man licking a woman's boot, can also do creepy stuff. Try and keep up. Jfc, you have your sights set on trying to pin me as a homophobe so bad you can't see that I've been the one talking about straight people doing the creepy shit all along while you brought up the gay angle.
And because involving people in your kinks against their will is creepy whether your bits are showing or not, exhibit A: man licks boot on subway. Just do that shit in private (or private enough public locations, like a bar, con, club, etc). There's places for that, the subway, park, store, whatever, ain't it.
They were doing that "cute anime girl" type thing, idk, so maybe? Frankly, to refer back to my dominatrix example, I don't care if say this guy that comes up when you search "guy licks boot on subway" insists it's not sexual it's just because he has an oral fixation and I'm just sexualizing it, the people who do it sexual reasons have ruined it for him and it now carries connotations of a sexual nature. So a furry doing odd egirl type shit in public, whether they think it's sexual or not, comes off as such and gives me the creeps. It is what it is.
Gay people can also go way too far with sexual shit in public, there's actually a huge debate within the community about whether or not kink should be at pride events for example, and I'd say wearing a whole furry suit is more akin to wearing leather or latex BDSM gear than "holding hands or kissing," and your example is frankly disingenuous.
I don't even mind some of the bugs, I'm just mad at "oh go grab an identical vase to that last one but from someone else's house...congrats now you're the leader of the thieves' guild haha." Gone are the days of going through someone's crawlspace to loosen a few bolts and drop a giant stuffed moose head on them, and why the fuck did y'all change wabbajack?!