Killing libraries is not about saving money, it's about restricting knowledge. Beware the leader that doesn't want the people to read.
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If the city cares about aaving money theu would be buying useless military hardware for the NYPD. Tokyo, Seoul, Jakarta, and Osaka all do fine without blowing massive amounts if the municipal budget on military gear for their police departments. The NYPD "officially' had a 2022 budget over $5billion with aroind 36,000 officers. That's comparable to the entire military budget of Romania. Hell, the NYPD has field offices in 6 foreign countries.
So you're telling me that if we just started grinding cops into a fine powder we'd not only save on their salaries and benefits, we'd also save on the amount of equipment they need and could fund things like libraries and social safety nets? And that we could sell that fine powder for uses such as food for heads, surgery, delousing, cosmetics, bomb disposal, firepower, and head transplants and fund even more things?
I'm not saying we should be grinding cops into a fine powder. I'm saying let's take a look at where we could save more money while helping more people.
Torgo's Police Powder is certainly not a thing we should turn those fucking pigs into. No sir. And if someone tries laying this at my feet I'll deny it.
You’ll have to spend some of those savings on industrial dehydrators though. It can be very difficult to get the texture of the powder right when you start grinding all willy nilly.
Lay em out in West Texas and they'll be good as dust in two shakes of a fat lambs tail. Just don't let the coyotes get to em. Or don't. Whatever. I'm not a cop.
The trick is to license private companies to produce the powder. You still get the budget savings, and you get reasonable license fees from the private companies, but you offload the risk of having to invest in the industrial dehydrators.
I know this is a joke, but reading that line of thoughts triggered me.
If the city cared about saving money they would not spend millions of dollars to recover tens of thousands of dollars lost to turnstile hopping.
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As the cousin of a NY public librarian, fuck mayor Adams, but for so many more reasons than this.
Stop voting cops in as mayor's, because at the end of the day they're still just corrupt cops.
I don't care if libraries get used or not, they NEED to be kept open. For the sake of information keeping and internet for those who don't have any at home
It's shocking to see the assault on libraries across Appalachia. Sad to see it's a broader problem. For as little finding as they require they provide critical services. So many nasty politicos trying to win some points with the lowest common denominators of humanity must see them as an easy target.
Yeah, across the whole country even, I think people have been discouraged from reading in general. (Heck, it's hard to feel like you have time to just sit and read a book...Audiobooks FTW...)
But I'm convinced this recent anti-library culture-war push is absolutely just a big PsyOp by private and public owner-class types.
Making it about drag queens and racy books on the surface is an easy way to rile up the uneducated, to remove public free access to information without commercial motive.
Further discouraging education by cutting off access to cultural and community events, outreach, and collections is a great way to isolate people back down to consumer-individuals and grow the hate-base.
Libraries are absolutely under attack for being easy targets too, you're right. And often from the inside! Our local library district has an immensely corrupt board and executive staff. It's likely seen as an easy stepping stone to pad a resume for big CEO jobs or public office. They can get away with a lot without many people really looking too hard...
is absolutely just a big PsyOp by private and public owner-class types.
Bro, I think people just don't ready physical books anymore lol
Libraries offer far more than just books. They often double as community centers and offer lots of free services that could really help lower income demographics. They actually also offer audiobooks a lot of the time.
Besides all that, of all government services that are available, they're cheap as fuck to operate comparatively speaking. The only reason to target libraries is because it gets the mouth breathers thumping. Nobody burning books (metaphorically and literally) has ever been on the right side of history.
Bro, I've only heard this line from people that don't read
Nah they definitely still do. But reading stuff takes time, and many people in the US just don't have that time to dedicate. So many people have to work long ass hours, and then they come back home and do you think they want to read? If they have a family or have a significant other, I think it far more likely that they would think it's the best usage of their time to spend time with them, and in alot of ways it is. Lack of leisure time is the problem.
Can't they just sell one of those sound-weapon equipped tanks from the NYPD to cover the entire library budget?
The fascists don't want to. They love weapons and hate books.
Can't we just fill the libraries with more books about weapons to increase the funding? 🤔
Sell it to whom? They're the only buyers.
Idk, Uvalde police might need it to cover up childrens' screaming next time.
Why do that when the news will do it for you?
FUCK that got dark. Christ, I gotta go find religion after that one
check public schools for that, now.
This what happens when you elect a cop.
This is incredibly sad. Dammit.
why is it called 'new york public library' if it only serves downstate new york
that is less than half the state, I live in new york and there are no new york public library locations near me
are you really going to let us be beaten by new jersey? new jersey?
disclaimer
I have a public library 5 minutes away, (though I guess not a 'new york public library') this comment was made mostly for the funny and more importantly to shit on new jersey
this comment was written after staying awake over 30 hours and I am (very faintly) hallucinating the factorio express belts moving on my screen
Because it's the public library system for the City of New York.
ah I probably should have realized that when writing the comment
As a general rule of thumb, "New York" refers to the city, unless otherwise specified such as "New York State", or in a list/map that's obviously only listing/labeling states.
Are people actually against libraries dying? What the hell is this deluded take?
Libraries provide a host of public services beyond "warehouse for books". A big part of our digital archives come from library digitization programs. And knowing how to sort, store, and distribute this information is a vital piece of library science.
Losing libraries means losing the tools we use to organize information on a national scale.
yes. Personally, i use libraries because I cannot afford buying a book (mostly programming) and I don't like split screen and can't afford another monitor. I have used the library here in Toronto so many times they know me by name now at two branches.
Edit: apparently people can't read as I already said I support libraries and want them to exist for those that benefit from them. This was never a 'it doesn't help me so screw you' type of comment. I was just sharing my experience of liking the concept, but failing to find any personal benefits and wondering if others experienced the same.
I like the idea of public libraries, but honestly I just don't have a lot of use for them in my life personally. Unfortunately the books I read are primarily published under Kindle unlimited, so they can't be checked out of a library either in digital or paper form (not that many of the titles ever even have a paper copy). I don't really watch that much TV or movies, and the ones I do watch are generally acquired from the high seas anyway, which is honestly easier than checking them out of a library. I support the concept and want them to be available to others, I just don't personally feel like I get any value from them.
Most of my Kindle books are checked out from our library system, and if they are missing one book in a series or don't have something available I can request and results have been pretty good.
There is a LOT of content for the Kindle at the library and I'm in Florida, can't imagine we lead in this.
Amazon keeps pushing the Kindle unlimited but I can't see the value yet. You like it?
It's not always about you, mate. It's a public service for all the other folks you can't afford that shit otherwise.
Does your local library support Libby?
Libby is an app that allows you to use your library card to check out ebooks, audiobooks, and digitized magazines. Free to anyone with a library card (at a participating library).
That's one of several resources that a lot of libraries provide. Hoopla, as well, for shows and movies. And some have maker spaces, or 3d printers, or loan tools. And they usually have discount passes for local edutainment attractions (museums, aquariums, zoos, etc).
Some give you a month subscription to genealogy sites. Lots of stuff for little kids and families, usually activities or story times or craft classes. Classes for grownups too.
Tons of stuff at/from your local library. More than just books.
Devil's advocate -
Isn't 0.4% of a gigantic city's budget for just library services really fuckin expensive?
Do they mean that their budget's been cut by 50+ million?
Isn’t 0.4% of a gigantic city’s budget for just library services really fuckin expensive?
No. You're talking about something on the order of $3-5 / resident / year. That's significantly less than residents spend on Netflix - $192 / resident / year - by comparison. And they get access to physical space and materials, rather than having to source their own hardware to access the service.
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