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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 92 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Boy howdy, I sure can't wait for 99.9% of all manufacturers on Earth to completely ignore this as well, and keep selling devices and cables that are completely unlabeled.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean, you aren’t wrong. Good luck trying to get Apple to put a label on anything.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

But they'll still sell you a $180 USB C cable that's no different than one you can get for $75 and has all of it's labels.

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[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Stuff that's spec compliant has to follow the rules, non-spec compliant stuff can obviously do whatever, so yeah the cheap cables off ebay or amazon won't use the right logos.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But what about my shiny Certified USB 3.2 Gen1x2 Legendary SS+?

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The cable names sound like gacha pulls.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

("legendary" and "shiny" aren't actually part of the name but SS+ is and it stands for SuperSpeed+. which is super-a-gacha pull

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[–] wax@feddit.nu 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does shiny mean it's gold-plated? :⁠-⁠)

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Audiophile USB cable. If you are buying that I have some rocks to sell to you.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm using a printer cable from 2006 to send audio out to my DAC. Sounds pretty fucking good.

[–] Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have connected my printer with a 120€ audiophile cable, and I tell you the prints are just a lot sharper. It gives the text a lot more air , especially around the serifs. Times New Roman looks especiallygood with it.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

But does it feel warm? Can you see the texture of those patrices pounding the paper? The natural feeling of primal typographic power, transferred unbiased by our golden cable?

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank fuck, a simple and clear marking that an average user can understand! I assume displayport compatible ports will still have that symbol, which is fine. Soon I'll be and to price out laptops that will work with a docking station without needing to read the damn manuals!

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 78 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's actually different and better as the previous naming scheme was actually horrendous (trying to explain it to customers was a nightmare).

Cause previously if you wanted to figure out what speed of USB port you were getting you'd have to look up the table because me telling you that a port was USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 doesn't tell you jack shit.

Can you see how cursed this is for non-tech savvy people? Absolutely terrible.

Thankfully now the new naming scheme will be:
USB +

  • 5 Gbps
  • 10 Gbps
  • 20 Gbps
  • 40 Gbps

So the xkcd meme actually isn't relevant here.

Edit:
Revised grammar in the first sentence

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Techies have a hard time understanding that just because you can look up some speeds easily doesn't mean jack shit for regular joe trying to buy an usb-c cable.

Having data speed and wattage indicated on the cable is important, but for most people simply the data speed is enough.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can't remember the last time I cared about data speed for a USB cable, but charging speed is useful when I'm charging my phone before leaving the house.

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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 33 points 3 months ago

The only thing changing here is the way cables are going to be labeled, the tech itself is staying exactly the same.

And on top of that, the author was generally correct for most situations, but usb (and especially usb c) truly has replaced a ton of separate connectors with a single standard. And it's very likely to continue to replace even more as time goes on

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

General rule:

The longer the product's name, the more bullshit you get.

USB 3.2 Gen 2x2

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We're adding new, different symbols to the confusing mess of old symbols and keeping both? Neat!

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And whatever you buy is just going to be labeled as the fastest even if it doesn't actually meet the standard.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are too many standards. Let’s make a new one so we can consolidate them all.

There are now N + 1 standards.

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago

This isn't a new standard. It's changing the naming conventions to make sense.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Fucking finally

[–] Toldry@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I'm still trying to find a good beard trimmer and electric toothbrush that charge with USB-C.

These are the only gadgets i have left that aren't charged with USB-C.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

What is high-speed USB suppose to be? No speed just for charging?

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

From what I recall high-speed USB was USB 2.0, mostly that is used today for stuff like mice or keyboards where speed isn't really all that relevant.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

High-speed is actually low-speed, got it

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, USB 2.0 did 480 MBit/s IIRC compared to USB 1.0 1.5 MBit/s and 1.1 12 MBit/s

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Jeez they still fell short there. Why can't they just go through the whole thing mark every other speed.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ibf it was high-speed at the time, we've just surprised it since... Super-duper speed.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, 480 Mbit/s really felt lightning fast at the time, especially considering where we came from with USB 1.0.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

High Definition video is still 720p

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's USB2, so either for charging or simpler devices that don't need USB3 (Like keyboards).

Edit: Federation issue? I swear there wasn't an existing reply when I responded.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago

No thanks. I'll wait for USB to develop their own writing and language first. They will get there one day.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

I thought the G number meant how many Gb’s I could store in the cable

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

90% of USB cables are 480Mbps and it's not even included. This will be useless.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 3 months ago

That would be USB 2.0 and is pretty safe to assume that all USB ports and cables support this (If you can find a USB 1.0 or 1.1 port I'll be impressed). Why bother with a 480Mbps logo if it's the default minimum?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Usually what's called simpler as opposed to techy ways makes things, in fact, loads of crap more complex.

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Isn’t that naming like a few years old? I already have a cable with 40 gbps 240 W on it

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't give a fuck about speed labelling, how about wattage?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, it took like 10 years to get this far sooo probably sometime around 2038

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We still don't have Bluetooth with stereo audio and mic channel at the same time... it's either stereo audio, or mono audio + mic.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Ah, is that why my headphones sound all weird for a second when a call comes in and the audio hasn't paused yet?

Think of the number of times you've needed your phone to be waterproof versus the number of times you could have plugged in a decent pair of headphones and not had Bluetooth introduce lag and mono audio.

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