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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 206 points 6 days ago (19 children)

It's wild that the U.K. doesn't teach the Odyssey, I thought their whole thing was stealing other peoples' culture and pretending they owned it now.

[–] Lemming421@lemmy.world 116 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Shakespeare invented literature, so clearly there’s no value in teaching anything from before him…

[–] DmMacniel 98 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

You haven't experienced Shakespeare unless you read it in the original klingon.

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[–] ScrollerBall@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Well Greece wasn't ever a British colony, so they didn't have as many opportunities to steal artifacts and culture as they did with, say, Egypt or India

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've heard of Assassin's Creed Odyssey, does that count?

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[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Just looked it up, the Odyssey can be taught in the UK but it is rarely chosen because Shakespeare is easier to teach and students who pick Shakespeare get better grades on average.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 112 points 6 days ago (4 children)

When the only Homer they know is Homer Simpson.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 days ago

Fun fact: the voice actor for Homer Simpson also voiced Homer (the Greek one) in the Disney Hercules animated series.

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 74 points 6 days ago (2 children)

As an American, I am going to dine on this single example as if it disproves the idea that we are insular and provincial hicks for the next decade.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 6 days ago (5 children)

nah, it just proves that brits are as stupid as you are, which is, tbh, is not a surprise /s

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We had Brexit. We can’t say nothing.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 83 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The world doesn't revolve around America, but you'll see idiots in Bumbfuck, Romania talking about Soros and wokeism. It's got to be exhausting.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 55 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Soros is a Hungarian Jew who survived the Holocaust and moved to America afterwards btw, so when someone from the Balkans is complaining about him it's not ignorance, it means something very specific.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Even more of a Nazi dog whistle than when the American right does it? I guess that would make it a Nazi Air Horn

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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, the only people left on Xitter are idiots

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[–] WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Liam’s a tool. UK schools absolutely do teach the Odyssey, and have done so at least as far back as my youth.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

most of the time someone says something wasnt taught in school its because that person straight up didnt pay attention in class

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I suspect there is significant overlap between the kids who were complaining in math class that what they were learning was useless along with the adults who claim math class didn't teach them "how to do taxes". (As if you do anything other than fill out a form, anyways.)

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[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Mine didn't. We did Buddy, The Crucible, Animal Farm and Shakespeare from what I remember. First I heard of the Odyssey was when I was 19 and DW did a retelling of it on Arthur. When I saw a copy of the story in the shop I worked at, I got it so I could read the actual story.

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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The problem is, I have this big bag of stones in my glass house, and I want to throw them at the UK for being dumb, but if I do, I also have to admit the US education system is trash.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'll throw that stone for you

The British education system is almost as bad as the American education system. The biggest difference between our cultures is that a lot of Americans are willing to point out how incredibly racist our country is

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (14 children)

I have to admit that I have not read the Illias or the Odyssey in school, either. We were made read books in school intendet to make children shy away from books, so they won't touch any of them after school ever again.

Luckily I had read loads of good books by that time, so I knew that only a few are as horrible as the ones they made us read in school.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There are basic versions of these stories with big drawings, mostly made for kids. Basically manga. When i was a kid(in Greece), 35 years ago, i had this

https://www.stratikis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iliada-nea.jpg

This is Iliad and it was cooler than Odyssey. Badass dudes with almost divine powers fighting other dudes and entire armies on their own, while Gods are taking sides and fucking things up. Isnt that shonen.

Odyssey's ending was cool though, even if it was a bit sad.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile on tiktok British people are apparently mad at Americans for not knowing or caring about Robbie Williams

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

$10 says the dipshit in question did a frantic google, saw 'ulysses' and went james joyce.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

The Illiad was like the Bible before the Bible.

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[–] Master@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Its not even that great of a mini van. You can get better for cheaper!

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[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Illiad and the Odyssey are classics and hardly American culture. They are western culture as a whole. No idea what the drama is about but some dude not knowing what the Odyssey is, is the same as not knowing any other classic. (There are too many to count, but not knowing the most popular ones are is like not knowing the titanic sank.) (Spoilers)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

That's the joke.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You haven't experienced The Odyssey until you've read it in its original Klingon.

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait.. some people don't know the Odyssey?

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How are you supposed to enjoy the music of Civilisation 7 without knowing The Odyssey?

On a similar note, you'd think the guy on the right would counter with Beowulf

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

instead we studied useful things

Have you ever seen any British television quiz game shows? The amount of world geography and history most contestants seem to know is abismal, makes me scratch my head and seriously wonder what many of these people are doing there, in a game show about knowledge. What are they even doing there, in the delusion that they have a shot.

"What is the capital of Denmark?"
"Erm... pass."

This person's comment is just another drop in the bucket in the sorry state of things.

[–] R3D4CT3D@midwest.social 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

is this why the miniseries is trending on some torrent sites?? haha!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(1997_miniseries)

[–] Lighttrails@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It was also just announced that Christopher Nolan’s next film will be the Odyssey

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

What! He never saw Wishbone’s the Odyssey?

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[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 20 points 6 days ago

"the world doesn't revolve around your country"country Said the user from UK.

Silly anglophone countries, the world actually revolves around the chad mediterranean

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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