WraithGear

Yea, not good, but still not genocide, at least directly… but her stance on other issues are acceptable. Her claims about justice reform are a little suspect, but she has backed Bernie Sanders in a number of things, whom i ideologically most align with, if not float a little further outside left.

I am still critical of the DNC but… Kamala Harris must beat trump. Jill Stein just isn’t in position to achieve that goal.

It’s funny you say that. I am usually a proponent of third party candidates, as my post history shows no doubt. I even voted for her in 2016.

That was the election we got trump elected if you recall.

I also later found out about her ties to Russia Today and to attending the Russian gala the year before.

Her excuse on the matter was weak. I will defend anyone’s wish to vote third party as i don’t believe in the Democratic Party at all. However i would recommend against it until a change in voting system.

That doesn’t mean i accept any bullshit from the DNC just because they are not trump, such as giving Israel cover to commit genocide.

From what i saw Kamala has said that she does believe Israel has a right to defend themselves. But the how is important. This tells me that she would not be up for permitting genocide, but who knows until tested.

Sorta? It’s complicated, and it’s important to note that it’s been repealed in 1987. And even in its hay day, its was controversial due to the government deciding what was fair, rendering free speech obsolete.

No when the government wants to silence media, they usually turn to clerical infractions, and fines for other reasons. And other harassment behavior. Sure they may do it to stations i want gone, but it’s still scummy.

Ok, so who would you vote for in their stead?

It’s hard to justify going after media orgs. Especially the government justifying going after the media. The freedom of speech points to stopping government action in this exact case. This gives the perfect vector for corporate take overs. And now my media diet consists of comedians.

Don’t bring the voters into this. I don’t know your stance and i don’t care. But if he was on the ticket i would have no choice but to vote for Biden, as much as i hate him. I can only hope that Kamala stands by her stance on limiting Israel’s actions.

How? How is it relevant?

Is it not true that Biden directed the Vetos?

Is it not true that after Vetoing investigation into genocide, calling on others to act on the charge of stopping others from feeling the hell that is war, is hypocritical?

Then it’s not a bad faith argument. They could have ulterior motives for making it, but it’s still 100% true. And it’s especially bad when your evidence for this ad hominem attack is as piss poor as what time he posts.

No, what you did was text book ad hominem attack. In the literal sense. The only way to revert that is to justify why the character of the OP is important to his argument. Which you never successfully did. You alluded that he could be a Russian plant, that’s why he’s against Biden, because of the time he posts.

If you had, say evidence that he posted on conservative instances in a way that is pro trump…. Or pro Israel… or what have you… it still would not make the argument he made invalid. And you would still be guilty of an ad hominem attack.

The argument that Biden directed a veto preventing the investigation into Israel is fact and is damning in its own, even if made by a supposed trumper.

Do you even know what an argument is?

I never made an argument, bad faith or otherwise. You committed an ad hominem attack on the OP, refused to argue against any of his points. Then did repeated cringe high fives with your rudder mate.

The only thing i did was call you out for doing so, by asking for justification for why you are attacking the character of the OP. If you want to claim that request is too burdensome, that’s fine by me, as that’s a reflection on your character, and was what i was highlighting in the first place. So well done on that.

Well you are right in that i got the wrong rudder mate. I meant to say chronostriggerwarning, not givesomefucks. Givesomefucks at least had an argument. You on the other hand avoid arguments like the plague. You refuse to make one, and you refuse to argue against one. And at this point I’m going to make the assumption thats because your position is untenable.

You going to substantiate that, or…?

Facts? Ignore? I didn’t ignore them. I dismissed them. You claimed that he posts at what would be 9am in eastern Europe. I assume you are alluding to russia? Ok? I post at 11:00 at night sometimes too. And it’s irrelevant. Anyone can call out our blatant hypocrisy.

As for the claim i am not arguing in good faith … are you?! You seem to be Dutch Ruddering with ~~givesomefucks~~ chronostriggerwarrning. You claim the OP is pro harming Palestine because he… is upset that a Biden official was ordered to block an investigation into Israel’s obvious genocide of Palestinians…. And then declare here is a plant who is trying to back… Trump, who’s stance is to show Israel “how its really done”. You know that makes you sound deranged, yea?