It's important to note that right after saying this...
A German AFD supporter who retweets Musk drove into a Christmas market in a terrorist attack
Germany has stricter laws about inciting violence, it's a long shot but maybe he'll get charges
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Elon Musk is, as far as I am concerned, directly responsible for (so far and let's hope it stays that way) the murder of five people.
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And the AfD's knee-jerk reaction was to assume he was a muslim jihadist, proving his point about German attitudes about Saudi refugees.
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Nazi supporting Nazi also supports other Nazis.
An apartheid-loving nazi calls for the nazi party to be the savior of Germany? Never would I have guessed.
The information, I as a not very politically interested German (understatement) have: We are holding re-elections on Feburary 23rd because the current government imploded. Basically, the rich guys' party doesn't want to make rich guys pay taxes and being children about it, most other parties seem desperate at this point, else they wouldn't have challenged that much. They have never cared that much, so I have no idea what changed. The populist nazi party Musk cheers for has a lot traction because people are beyond stupid and self-centered and I fear that they will get a significant amount of votes. Maybe they don't win outright, but they will realistically take second place. I regard everyone that considers to vote for AfD as a nazi.
I think the real problem is that most parties in Germany that held some power in the last decades did little to nothing to actually improve the economic situation of the "normal" people. For many it stayed the same, for many others it declined significantly starting with Corona and then with the energy crisis that contributed heavily to the inflation.
Paired with us being one of the few nations that raise no taxes at all on wealth but just on income the disparity between the rich and the poor is growing. So people have only the parties that haven't held power yet to turn to.
I think it's at least partially some weird form of misplaced hope that something will change for the better in the chaos that would be a AfD government.
But you are correct, supporting the AfD is directly benefiting Nazis. And while I don't think that all AfD supporters will always be Nazis, they currently are.
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Elon Musk is a danger to democracy all over the world
What the fuck does he even know about germany?
What the fuck does he know about America?
It doesn’t matter to him. All he knows that he’s a Dark Enlightenment fascist white supremacist. The poors and non-whites must die. Fascist governments must be in power everywhere so he can have his world where he is king, he has robots to do his bidding and can try to live forever.
His knowledge is mostly restricted to the years 1933-1945.
He didn't read the ending. No one tell him the spoiler.
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Elon grew up and enjoyed the South African Apartheid regime and he is a neo-Nazi.
Stfu Musk you know shit about Germany
English teacher here. Often editing to use less words can make your statements more concise and accurate. For example, try "STFU Musk, you know shit"
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We're running into the paradox of tolerance real quick here folks. Democracies need to legislate limits to the political influence of rich idiots and soon, otherwise we'll all end up like the US.
Rest of the world, please take us as a cautionary tale, not a model for emulation
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No country is safe from Elon Musk's election interference. It's urgent that we boycott Twitter and Tesla. If you have a Twitter account do the following now:
- Send a DM to your favorite accounts and urge them to stop using Twitter.
- (If you haven't already) register for Bluesky.
- Make a Tweet saying you are no longer using Twitter.
- Tell your friends to follow the same instructions.
These could take as little as five minutes of your time but it will make a huge difference because of the ripple effect. When one person leaves it will automatically incentivize your friends to follow you. You have the power to make a difference.
register for Bluesky
Replace that with Mastodon and you're golden.
Either is better than X/Twitter for now. Bluesky is "easier" for many people. I prefer Mastodon myself, but there's a bridge so I can follow Bluesky profiles (and vice-versa) which is nice.
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Literal supervillain
Musk later doubled down, calling for Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s resignation.
This stupid POS doesn't even know that this already happened a few days ago.
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There is nothing surprising about a white South African promoting a racist political party. White South Africans are the most openly and unabashedly racist people on the planet.
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bro thinks hes henry ford
Well, the nazism, the car thing, the evil vulture capitalist…kinda similar.
TBH he is. Ford was a piece of shit and so is he.
Why do Putin and the billionaires he shepherds think that all this far-right democracy killing shit is so super duper? I marvel that they never seem to stop and think "this could eventually go badly for me."
They want every place to be like Russia. It's always been their main contention that democracy is just a sham and basically everyone is a fascist. This is one of the main reasons for invading Ukraine because he couldn't tolerate a democratic nation as his neighbour. It'll give the plebes ideas, you know.
Because Putin wants Russia to be the geopolitical superpower it was in 1960. It's a hell of a lot easier to tear the rest of the world down than it is to build up Russia.
That's part of why he's so eager for war. The last big shakeup of the global order was WWII. He doesn't have the patience to accomplish geopolitical power closer to the way China is, by slowly building up their economy over decades.
And he's right that a bunch of people dying often helps the economy. The black plage was 1350, followed by the Renaissance around 1400-1600. We're familiar enough with post WWII.
But that's the dumb and evil way to grant power to labor. You can create more demand for labor without literally killing half your laborers. And it turns out having a real, healthy middle class is great for the economy.
Personally, I believe you could accomplish a similar effect by having a ridiculously high minimum wage and mandating a maximum of 32 hour work weeks. Seems like it might be worth experimenting with when the alternative "fix" is to kill half your people.
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Elon Musk sparked outrage in Germany by endorsing the far-right, anti-immigrant Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party on his platform, X, claiming “only the AfD can save Germany.”
I do not understand the outrage on this (regard Musk being Far-Right supporter), everyone knows Musk has become an immensely Extreme Far-Right supporter and leans heavily into Fascism. He support all the Right/ Far-Right political parties and people.
“only the AfD can save Germany.”
As usual, his claims are immensely wrong, stupid and idiotic. I mean, the afD literally tried to do a coúp in Germany;
- Gevaar voor Duitsland niet geweken met oppakken coupplanners, angst voor rechts-radicale AfD groeit.
- Germany's far-right AfD party to eject members for suspected links to militant group.
The AfD, which polls second ahead of Germany’s February snap election, has been labeled extremist by German intelligence.
Unfortunately shows that lots of people in Germany are supporting Far-Right/ Nazism ideas, tactics and ideology. Especially since it has been proven that many of the afD are Nazi-supports (especially the leaders);
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The case involved Björn Höcke's use of "Everything for Germany!" in a 2021 speech. While prosecutors said he knew it was originally a Nazi slogan, Höcke claimed it was an "everyday saying".
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Political leaders accused Musk of election interference, while others criticized his remarks as harmful.
Accussed? If I remember, he did interfere with the election in America by trying to 'purchase' votes (Insanity that this is allowed);
Accussed? If I remember, he did interfere with the election in America by trying to ‘purchase’ votes (Insanity that this is allowed);
Citizens United ruling says money is speech. So in the US, this is unfortunately 100% legal.
Not in the EU though...
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It should be unsurprising that he's trying to destroy other major economies around the world, seeing as that's the policy of those who he's aligned himself with politically.
This country collapses when the far right party is in power.
We have a huge problem. Me need young people from other countries, because Germany is pretty old.
Having those clowns in power will worsen the problem.
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Only Nazis can save Germany...isn't there precedent for that not working?
Well Elon isn't Jewish, gay, roma, disabled, Germsn, polish, French, Italian, Russian, British, …or a poor American so it isn't his problem
vietnamese people think elon musk and donald trump are right about everything because they are smart because they are rich and because america is a democracy
they are deified, basically. just like ho chi minh
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