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Summary

The Trump transition team plans to dismantle key support for the US electric vehicle (EV) market by eliminating the $7,500 federal EV tax credit and diverting funds from EV charging stations to securing battery materials as a “national-defense issue.”

This marks a major shift from Biden’s policies, which prioritized rapid EV adoption and a domestic battery supply chain.

The plan includes imposing tariffs on battery parts and materials globally, with possible exemptions for allies.

These changes are expected to slow US EV growth, further widening the gap with Europe and China.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

Right. So President Musk's first act will be to destroy his competition.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 105 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Except for one brand, I'll wager.

[–] elvith 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Leopards something my something face something

One can hope, right?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Actually the ones who voted for trump wouldn't have voted any other way. It's the people who sat it out 'to show Biden/ kamala' who need to take a good look at themselves.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Congratulations, you swallowed the DNC propaganda to blame the voters instead of the politicians not running a platform that people wanted.

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[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 88 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know, as a kid I thought the bad guys in Captain Planet were a bit silly and over the top. How wrong I was...

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I want the Don Cheadle Captain Planet to manifest in this reality.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump would make the best tree. He'd be 'UGE! Lots of people are saying it, the best people.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nah. He’d be one of those trees that smells like a rotting corpse and he’d probably be on the smaller side.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Either way a definite improvement over his current state.

Edit: also as with any Trumpian statement it's always safe to assume that reality is the exact opposite of whatever was said.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Standard conservative mindset. Swimming against the tide.

They might slow things, but the inevitable progress of technology plus equally inevitable increase in gas prices over time will shift the market to EVs anyway.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Gas prices don't matter to people as much as they say, or they would have been pissed when he rolled back the mpg requirements last time. Gas prices are $2.50 a gallon! Why yes, but you would have got more than twice as far if you didn't buy a car getting 20mpg, the requirements were set to 45mpg. But yikes, that would have cut fuel use and helped the environmental impacts... Can't have that. Better to pay more than double to stick it to all our offspring and humanity

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Have they ever in recent history been successful at keeping a society exactly how it is for any length of time, or taken it back to a previous era? It just seems like they love losing and being on the wrong side of history, over and over.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

I'd suggest that they already are in the process. For example lots of companies have stopped their DAI programms due to eight wing pressure.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just because history eventually moved on doesn't mean conservatives lost, especially because most of the time the draconian, hateful ideologies they push are a distraction to keep the lower classes divided and most of the time this strategy is catastrophically effective.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well, there is the Taliban in Afghanistan...

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

At this rate I'll go buy a cheap used torch, slap two decent ebikes together and make my own. I literally need something to hold groceries a few miles I'm not blowing 100k on a vehicle with panel gaps as wide as the holes in musk's ideology.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If the rest of the world isn't with you, it'll burn anyway.

And the way it's looking.... 😬

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

There are cargo e-bikes and trikes.

At the end of the day I wonder what a small electric engine attached to a bike wheel and battery would do?

[–] xtapa@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I wish. They’re expensive af. They are intended as a car replacement for local driving and are priced as such

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 27 points 4 days ago (6 children)

So why does Musk want this?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 days ago

same reason most magas support donvict in the first place.. it hurts others more than he thinks would hurt himself or his own company.

and, they're probably working on some way to target tesla for some multi-billion dollar government handouts that only it would qualify for, or to exclude old spice's companies from any new tariffs or taxes.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

"With possible exemptions for allies"

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Musk is set with the contracts that'll come in to SpaceX. Tesla has been a low priority for a while now.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He also canned the entire supercharger team this past year. In a different timeline, the supercharger network might have been Tesla's most enduring legacy as other manufacturers catch up. But chargers aren't very interesting, and Elon doesn't like anything unless it's flashy (and fashy).

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

He rehired them after he got over his temper tantrum though. He started rehiring them less than a week after he fired them.

I just hope those employees that got rehired were able to lock in pay raises, bonuses, etc. for Musks childish behavior.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He rehired them a few weeks later.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago

Tesla wont be selling cars anymore. They'll be shoving out "self driving" robotaxis instead.

Same price as Uber without the pesky need for paying drivers.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Tesla is a beacon for the right wing now. They'll pay any amount to drive around in a symbol of Trump support.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

Because Tesla doesn't want you to own your car. They want to become robo-Uber where they can collect rent.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It won't necessarily destroy the EV market, but it will make it less competitive. Elon Musk is ok with ending the Federal tax credit because he believes it will hurt Tesla's competitors more than it will hurt Tesla, and that will help Tesla get closer to full monopoly power. Nearly 50% of all EVs sold are Teslas, I expect that to go up.

The company that I think has the best chance to compete with Tesla is GM. Their Ultium platform will allow them to deliver quality EVs at affordable prices. As of Q3 2024, GM is selling the second most EVs, though they are still only selling a fraction of Tesla's numbers.

For EVs, affordability is key, and GM has positioned themselves well to compete with Tesla on price. However, the GM brands aren't exactly the most popular, and it's hard to say if GM will be able to overcome that and convince American EV buyers that GM EVs are worth considering. Which is unfortunate, because GM, of all the legacy, domestic auto makers, has committed themselves to EVs the most.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It'll make US manufacturers uncompetitive while the rest of the world moves on. Even a 100% terrif on imported cars won't be enough to save it.

Also, the new Honda Prologue EV is just a Chevy Blazer, but people are snapping them up. Apparently, the way to sell GM EV is to slap a Honda logo on it.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Also, the new Honda Prologue EV is just a Chevy Blazer, but people are snapping them up. Apparently, the way to sell GM EV is to slap a Honda logo on it.

It's true, Chevy has earned a reputation for being low quality, while Honda has a much better reputation. Also, Chevys are usually just uglier, in my opinion, especially the interiors. I really hope Chevy can use this opportunity to reinvent themselves and start making more desirable vehicles, but in the meantime at least the Ultium platform is selling, in some form.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Oh....that will change. Most people that are progressive enough to purchase electric vehicles are not buying new Tesla's. I mean, hell, look at the regret that some people have over it ("I purchased this before Elon went crazy!", etc.).

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nearly 50% of all EVs sold are Teslas, ...

BYD has entered the chat.

[–] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They meant where this news matters, in the US. BYD currently cannot sell passenger vehicles in America.

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[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On the one hand, im kinda in support of not subsidizing the auto industry.

On the other hand, I know this will only hurt us ecologically and economically.

Will this see a spike in EV adoption before Trump takes office?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You’re completely right that we need to stop doing things like “subsidize the auto industry”. However we as a society have reason to try to speed up the transition to EVs, and “incentivize a faster transition” is a really good investment in our future. Differences are a desired change and that it’s meant to be temporary

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 days ago

I'm kinda assuming he's going to add a specific carve out exception for "companies who invest in our space program and social media" or something like that

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish these articles would note that Congress gets a say. I know there’s a slim Republican majority in both houses but that’s not enough in the Senate.

Obviously, a lot can be done by executive order and that reconciliation exists. The tax credit would qualify for reconciliation bills and could easily be doomed. But half these articles act like Trump won’t face any resistance, even from within his own party.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Trump will literally just EO to stop the physical payment of rebates.

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