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[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shoutout to Unlucky Steve who made this happen by paying $1000 to get one from the US a few minutes before the announcement.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Luckily we've had grey imports for a while that were pretty much only a few $100 more.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I got lucky and only paid a bit more than RRP, but you pretty much had to sit around and wait for a deal.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"a few hundred more" for a device that only costs a few hundred to begin with seems a rather hefty premium to pay, and calling that "lucky".

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago

I paid A$1,189.00 for the 1TB OLED one, Valve will be selling it for A$ 1,049.00. To me, that wasn't a huge difference, especially considering there was no indication Valve was ever going to sell it here.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those sellers should be ashamed to charge few $100 more and taking advantage of this situation.

[–] Anivia 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, those sellers should just eat the import duty and sell it at a loss, just so people in Australia can get it for the same price

/s

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You obviously never heard of taking advantage of such a situation. multiple $100 more is more than the import costs. Can't believe how you are sympathizing with the scam prizes.

[–] Anivia 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No one forces you to buy from them, they are providing a service of convenience. If you think their prices are a "scam" you can take the time, effort and money to import one yourself

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah exactly, don't want to pay that price? Sort it yourself. Everyone that complained about the price of shit needs to understand this.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org -1 points 1 month ago

This has nothing to do with forcing to buy. Scam prices are prices, because they take advantage of a situation in need and inflate them for more profit. And defending any scammer makes you part of the problem. I grew up with imports of videogames since the 90s and know this kind of problem well.

My reply was about your nonsense sympathizing reply:

those sellers should just eat the import duty and sell it at a loss

Which you fabricated it for god knows what reasons. It is not about selling it at a loss, dumbass. Man people are sometimes stupid.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

A hundred more on a thousand dollar device sounds exactly like the 10% duty we pay on things we import

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My Aussie friends didn't have the steam deck?!?

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not hard to get, but you would pay $1200 AUD instead of $899 which is the retail for the 512GB OLED, for example.

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Been telling folks for ages I'm not getting a steamdeck until I can give my money direct to valve.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that's fair. I caved for the LCD and again the oled. Have probably overpaid $650 all up over the last 18 months but its a great device.

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do we have a rough idea for when the 2 will be coming? Id almost rather wait for newer hardware if it's not too far off.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's probably a year or two out, at least. They want the Steam Deck 2 to be a proper power jump from the original, and there hasn't been any significant hardware improvements that would allow that yet.

Other handhelds have more power, but they do that by dumping way more power into the chipset for increasingly small returns. It's not really worth it to make a new Steam Deck with one of those chipsets because you would be trading off most of the battery life for any power increase.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Valve were really smart with the hardware selection. Pointless to put FHD resolution into a 7 inch screen size, means better performance and battery.

[–] SlamWich@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't hold out for a 2 necessarily. Not sure it's gonna follow the console ~5 year release cycle

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm Australian living in Australia and thought we had it.

I've met people with them and didn't once get the impressions they were hard to get

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

hard to get no but not easy either

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

There are unofficial imports, but they cost more and you don't get Valve's great warranty coverage.

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My partner bought me one a few months ago from Kogan for my birthday. But it does have a problem which needs to be RMA’d and I knew there was no hope of that.

I thought we could try our luck with Kogan returns, but they only have the OLED model now so don’t know how that would go. Especially as it appears to work fine ( until you get 5 - 10 minutes in-game then it hard crashes).

I found on the github issue tracker for steamOS someone from Brazil (who also had to resort to grey imports) found a way to flashback to an older BIOS and adjust memory power settings. That fixed it, but it’s a bit bodgy and introduces other issues.

This is a known issue that the Steam rep on the issue tracker said only follow that process if you absolutely can’t RMA it. They closed the issue in the basis that you just RMA it if it happens.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I tried to find the github issue, but it’s eluding me, so I’m going to go into detail since I spent about 3 weeks troubleshooting this.

Hard crash when playing a game. Restarts steam deck with a “verifying installation” message.

This happens anywhere from 2-15 minutes of playtime. Game didn’t matter, Terraria, Skyrim, Borderlands 1, Dave the Diver, Shredders Revenge, Doom 2016 … It was also reported by users with both LCD and OLED decks, so hardware revision didn’t matter either.

Anecdotally you find people saying that some of these steps work:

Memory retraining, re-imaging steam deck, Flashing different bios versions, Messing around with gpu clocks

But almost all of those threads loop back to the OP saying something like “nope, still crashing”. Any reprieve they did have seemed to be coincidental.

Valve themselves recommend those first two steps and then an RMA if it doesn’t fix it.

A Brazilian user in the issue tracker worked out you can flash BIOS 0116, and disable two specific memory power management flags. I believe the settings are hidden in other versions of the BIOS.

A Valve rep on the tracker confirmed that would work, but suggested not to do it as the deck is not functioning properly and needs to be replaced. They then closed the issue and advised to only use that fix if you can’t RMA.

Worth noting, 0116 is a pre-OLED BIOS, and can only be flashed to the LCD models. There is no way to reveal these BIOS flags on the OLED model, so you can only RMA in that case.

This has absolutely solved the problem. But I think I’m having a few dodgy side effects that weren’t happening before, like updates failing, and USB connection has become iffy and needing a few restarts to recognise devices are plugged in.

At least I can play games again, which work flawlessly now.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 1 month ago

This one https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamOS/issues/1257

Had it as well. I'm actually not sure if I still have it. Crashes became less frequent after the RMA but they still happen. And if they do start happening again they get more frequent until I do a cold reboot.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What the hell is an Australia? Is that like a German Best Buy or something?

[–] coaxil@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like that, but with more swearing, and spiders, so many spiders

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Its 5 meters from my back door to my car, I ran through 5 spider webs walking to my car this morning, the last one right at my car door.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No thank you please

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The swarms of flying spiders are the worse

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 1 month ago

I thought it was a German ski resort.

[–] Mim@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey, this time it's not on us!
It's the Brits' fault.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Britain 2: Electric Boganloo

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 8 points 1 month ago

The Year of Australia.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yay!

Does NZ count as Australia too? Or are we stuck with parallel importers, or picking one up on holiday?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not if you keep pronouncing “deck” like that!

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My neighbours wife loves my deck. She says it's the biggest deck she's ever seen.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I love having the kids on my deck

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 month ago

Drag would like to have a deck to play with drag's dragon.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 6 points 1 month ago

they're in the Au constitution any time they feel like accepting nuclear subs in port ...

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 1 month ago

Feels like delaying this so long was a very bad financial decision considering how absurdly priced games are in Australia. Console players are far more likely to pony up the multiple hundo buckaroos for a launch game with all the day one dlc than people who can comprehend a computer as a gaming platform.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Now we need South Africa and Brazil