Wow this is doesn't affect me at all thank fully
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I remember them doing this with Internet Explorer back in the 90s.
"We can't remove this thing we don't want to remove! Look! It's hastily integrated with the OS! We can't remove it ever!"
yep exactly my thoughts. IE couldn't be ripped off a Windows computer at all
It still can’t.. Hidden somewhere deep in windows, there is still a IE, believe me.
Explorer has had so many dependencies attached to it that if even one of them sneezes, the entire desktop environment crashes and has to restart.
Actually insane when you think about it. Why the hell is a file explorer the root process of the desktop??????
I've only ever forced stopped thunar once and it was because I was messing with some thumbnail settings. Naturally the rest of my system worked as normal, as well as the other thunar windows open lol.
Looking at you microsoft store rdp manager. Crashing explorer when I dare to leave something in the clipboard.
There is a setting somewhere IIRC (or at least there was) where you can separate file browser processes from the "main" explorer.exe process so you can kill individual Explorer windows but not the whole environment.
Yes. It is (or at least it was, don't know about Windows 11) in the Folder Settings.
I had to kill nautilus a few times back in the day and nothing but the background remained until I restarted nautilus. But ymmv
screw Microsoft..i hope people will consider to switch to Linux
I have a long term project to migrate my machines, and the introduction of recall pressured me to move faster, but I still have some hurdles to overcome that just require a time sink on my part.
Yay am dualbooting linux with windows 10 but man I love the flexibility of linux.
I'm on win10. I use win11 at work and I'm fine with it but there's no way in hell recall is going on my home machine and equally no way in hell I'm getting a computer just to get win 11. Im fine using Linux. I will definitely do that before put with with this bs
Based on the comments here you'd think Copilot+ PC's are actually a popular thing. Nobody here has a PC that will run Recall. Essentially nobody has a Copilot+ PC at the moment.
Side note: Recall isn't the boogeyman it's being made out to be.
But people know they will soon, considering Windows is the most popular OS and they have been forcing everyone as hard as they can to always update to the next and newest version.
The link is also interesting but it only happened after the whole world screamed at them about the privacy and security issues of the feature.
I'm definitely saving it though, because it also includes a way to not have to keep seeing the stupid re set up your system screen after every Windows update. Didn't think I'd run into that in your link, but I couod use that information lol.
only happened after the whole world screamed at them about the privacy and security issues of the feature
That's actually not true. If you look at the original announcement of Recall it was doing all of this stuff all along. The issue is some researchers ripped Recall out of the beta image and deployed it on a system that Recall isn't designed to run on. They then reported how it had all these problems... Because it was never designed to run on that system. At the time they did their experiment, Copilot+ PC's were not available to the public.
What? I thought you were talking about the security and privacy issues, but now I'm not sure what you're arguing against. Even your link admits that the changes for improved security only happened after all the security official in the world said how that feature was asking for trouble from a privacy and security standpoint. It was doing what stuff all along? Improved security features? Definitely not. Your screen shots don't mention any of the stuff in your link, such as the dedicated VPN stored locally, with encryption and keys and PIN, etc.
how the fuck do you even begin making recall a dependency for explorer?
Easy. For example: You could take something stupid like the controller for the background colour, move it into the recall.exe and have the file explorer reference the function inside the recall.exe. So whenever someone deletes the recall.exe the file explorer will crash because it can't find how to set it's background.
It's complete bullshit, but it would work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I can't say how. But I can guess why.
"Sorry, can't remove it. It's a system dependency"
It's the Microsoft way
Windows Debloat Tool:
https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools
I run this on any new Win install. I also suggest Portmaster so you know where your data is going (I use it on Linux too!)
However, if you can, it is really worth switching to Linux. Linux is built as a tool by the people using the tool. Windows is making a product. Enough said.
If people would like to "try Linux before you buy," check out DistroSea. It spins up a virtual machine of whatever distro and flavour you choose to try.
There are a surprising and growing number of Linux compatible tools. Software is usually why people have a hard time switching. If you're dependent on Photoshop/Adobe, check out:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
Gamers should check out:
This site shows how well games run on Proton (compatibility tool) and people offer solutions to get them running if there's any snags.
And all the webapps work well on Linux, so you have the MS office apps and the apple iCloud apps (by just having an account there). Even for photo editing, there are web app solutions, these days.
DaVinci Resolve is not a replacement for Photoshop/Adobe as a whole, but it is a decent replacement for Adobe products AfterEffects and Premier.
For Photoshop alternatives, I'd start with GIMP for photo editing or Krita for illustration and digital painting.
I'm still on Windows because my drawing app of choice is Clip Studio Paint, which has no Linux version. I've read and watched several guides to getting CSP running on Linux, but it still scares me off.
But this Recall thing is so insidious to me... I might try to get it working on Linux anyway.
I've been a LONG time user of Adobe, grew up with PhotoDeluxe and pre-suite Photoshop and used every version of Cretive Suite since my parents ran a graphic design business. I made all my high school essays in InDesign CS4. Suffice to say, growing bitter over proprietary software in the last few years has been painful but I'm doing my best to move to only FOSS.
There was a point in time I tried replacing Premiere with DaVinci Resolve, but I quickly noticed it was oriented for color correction, and some of its features for composition were locked behind Fusion. These days, if you can believe it, I do all my video editing in Blender. It's still got a long way to go, but since v4 the VSE has gotten really good. I'd like to try kdenlive when I finish migrating to Linux, but on Windows it basically doesn't support GPU encoding which is a dealbreaker for me.
Adobe Fresco is replaced quite well by Krita. It has a learning curve but is far more powerful as a result. I'm still learning but I'm impressed.
I don't really like Scribus, but I don't really have a need for software like InDesign, so I haven't had to worry about it.
I've used Inkscape way back just because it was portable when Illustrator wasn't. It was pretty minimal back then but I can see it's grown greatly in depth. The workflow is enough to be disruptive, but not too badly to work through I think.
And finally the titan, Photoshop. It's such a massive and ubiquitous software that it simply cannot be replaced by any single program. At least since I moved to drawing in Fresco I don't use PS for that, but again Krita is a fine replacement. Pixel art in PS is very normal too, but that's replaced quite nicely by Aseprite, it's more capable in that space and still quite easy to use if you don't know its features. It's the photo editing and general purpose image editing that's the real challenge. I keep hoping that version 3 of GIMP will magically fix its problems, but in the meantime it's frustratingly clear that it's built by software engineers, not artists, but it's often made out that it's everybody else's burden to forget everything they know and start from scratch to learn its special workflow. There's an interesting patch someone made called PhotoGIMP that's supposed to improve that, but I haven't spent enough time with it to really say. Currently my only alternative is Photopea. It works great right now, but I don't like that it's a web app and not FOSS. I really hope I can eventually find an alternative that I can finally be comfortable with.
I love Krita!! I put my specialty software into a virtual machine, aka the shame box. You can disable networking for it. 😈
For Photoshop alternatives, I'd start with GIMP for photo editing
I have always felt that GIMP was the ultimate software Camel. As in, designed by a committee to include everything and the kitchen sink without any coherent UI/UX.
It’s the software industry’s 1965 Lada masquerading as a 2024 model.
If it wasn’t for Paint.NET still missing vectorized/sprite-based text (it instantly rasterizes text the moment focus leaves it), I don’t think I could ever use GIMP.
You're certainly not wrong about GIMP having horrible UI/UX. Big reason I don't use it either.
For years... well pretty much since I had a PC, I had a Windows partition. Why? Well because I (sadly) paid for the damn thing (damn OEM deals). Plus, I admit, sometimes they were things that only ran on Windows.
For few years now though, everything, literally, from the latest tech gadget to playing games to VR, works on Linux.
Few weeks ago I deleted the Windows partition. I didn't have to. I didn't boot on it for months. It didn't affect me.
Still, I now feel ... safer, more relaxed, coherent.
When I see shit like that, I feel even better!
Yea about a year ago I switched entirely over to Linux. I am a system engineer so I have to deal with windows at work all the time but on my computer, I feel calm. Like I don't have to worry about my operating system. Windows is getting in the way more than it's helping 99% of the time now.
So.. how does this exist in corporate environments where PCI DSS is necessary? Is the government also going to have to deal with fallout from this?
I wonder if there will ever be a point where legislation dictates features from an os vendor.. we lost control of our hardware when they started forcing updates. I'm sure someone will hack a DLL or something to allow explorer to run but kill this component... But should we really need to hack our systems to protect ourselves from spying?
Inb4 Linux - I ran Slackware in the early 90s, and my server still runs a deb based distro.. but when I want to play Forza, I'm pretty limited with my choices, etc.
Microsoft: We're going to arbitrarily require TPM and SecureBoot and say that makes Windows 11 more secure even though that's a feature of your motherboard, not our operating system.
Also Microsoft: In Windows 11 the file explorer program depends on a program that periodically sends us screenshots of your screen.
So secure!
Security <> privacy. And this is where they slice the difference. Although, they're not secure, either lol
Ahahaha, holly fucking shit.
They literally added some OS in their spyware.
Microsoft has been the single most effective marketing asset for GNU/Linux distributions in recent years.
So, I just bought a new laptop. It came with Windows 11. But anyways, I'm writing this comment from a freshly installed Bazzite Linux OS.
No judgement here; but it always bothers me when a laptop only comes with Windows preinstalled, when 1) it makes the device more expensive, and 2) I don't need it.
I didn't have much choice. Where I am imports are heavily restricted and the market is not very keen on alternatives anyways. I already had a slim number of options to begin with. Importing a linux first brand, a used thinkpad or a fancy framework as is the fashion on the first world would've cost me about three times what I paid for the model I got, and I already got it with a bit of overcharge. Just on port fees, taxes, etc. Trust me, I did my research and this was the best performance and compatibility with linux for money I could get where I am. Windows 11 license cost is not even a factor, we just don't get a choice to not factor it in the price.
THIS IS WHY I AM STILL ON WINDOWS 10 AND DUALBOOTING LINUX