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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago

No injuries were reported

Phew. That's a relief.

[–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 137 points 3 days ago (6 children)

A total of 2,348 bombs weighing 41 tons were disposed of during fiscal year 2023, the Reuters news agency reported, citing the Self-Defense Force.

Holy shit. Other than the obvious, I never learned much in school about the Allied bombing campaign in Japan during WWII... which, now that I think about it, was probably on purpose.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 82 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This is going to be one of the horrors of Ukraine. A legacy of landmines that will not be cleared in most of our lifetimes, even if the war ended today.

Not the same as unexploded airdropped ordinance, but significantly worse.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 67 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Not just in Japan, in Europe as well.

We're still finding random shit from all sides, IIRC there is a fully loaded German heavy bomber on the bottom of the lake near where I grew up

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 42 points 3 days ago (6 children)

A few years ago, near where my family lived in New Jersey, there was a small newspaper article mentioning that construction on a set of mid-rise condominiums on the Delaware River was being notably delayed, with the vague implication that there was some trouble with financing or construction or something. [To be fair, both of these were true, but for very not-obvious reasons.] But then you start tracing back through the history of the site:

They had selected the site for the condos because it had been the site of a large flea market from the late 1970s to early 2000s, so all they'd have to do was dig up the parking lots, lay in utilities, and compact the soil to be ready to build. The flea market was there because it was the site of a massive drive-in movie theatre built in the early 1950s, so all they had had to do was put up some cheap buildings that were eventually condemned and torn down. The drive-in movie theatre was there because the land had already been cleared and flattened by the US government, so it was cheap to put in a parking lot and big screen.

Why had the government so kindly cleared and flattened the ground? Well, the site was right next to a small bridge across the Delaware; on the other side of the bridge was Frankford Arsenal, where they produced munitions during both World Wars. And they had to test the munitions, so they'd drive over the bridge and test them at this site in New Jersey. And it turns out that sometimes they were either high or lazy or careless or something, because sometimes they didn't bother driving across the bridge, they'd just shell New Jersey from across the river instead.

The shelling led to a bunch of unexploded ordinance being in extremely unexpected places, until it started showing up eighty years later, when the condo people actually started digging up the ground to lay in their utilities. Of course, the condo association was quietly and casually referencing vague construction delays, because if people knew it was a munitions testing site and they'd recently found a bunch of UXO, no one would buy the condos.

[Also, while trying to look up details for this comment, I discovered three other cases of UXO in New Jersey in the past couple years. This is all very weird to me.]

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Strange, because the idea of shelling New Jersey seems very natural to the rest of us

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

And it turns out that sometimes they were either high or lazy or careless or something

No they were just normal people from Philly

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[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used to live in an area that was one of the biggest targets for bombers in Germany during WW2. I remember every few months there was a bomb alarm. We had to leave the house for a few hours while it was being defused. No bomb ever blew up luckily and it just became routine.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There's potentially up to a few kilotons worth of munitions (about half a hiroshima bomb) sitting right next to Kent (England) in a sunken liberty ship.

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[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait til you hear about Cambodia...

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And western Europe and the Middle East

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They're referring to landmines, leftover from that region's wars of the mid-20th century: America's Vietnam & Cambodian war, French-Indochina war, Cambodian civil war, etc.

The legacy of landmines and chemical warfare is still regularly killing, maiming, and causes significant increases in fetal birth defects and other rare illnesses.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Doolittle raids are fairly well know but the fire bombings carried out after that were not. The E-46 cluster bomb was pretty terrible 3 - 5 seconds after hitting the ground a small explosion would ignite and spread flaming napalm. The updraft from the fires was so bad some bombers lost control and crashed.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Japanese cities were primarily built using wood as it was better suited for their climate and earthquakes. The fire bombing of Tokyo with a single deadliest attack on the Japanese mainland, killing even more than either atomic bomb drop.

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you're interested in the worst of it you should look up firebombing and why it was so effective against Japan.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 118 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, in a nursing home in Iowa, a man sits bolt upright in bed and says, "I told you I hit the target!"

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Cotton Hill from King of the Hill, someone who continues to be racist towards the Japanese despite the war being over.

“Haha! Got ‘em again!”

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

<Looks at the news the next day]

Dang it! They weren't Japanese! They're Laotian!

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Me, realizing she was flirting with me at that party 15 years ago.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

You shit yourself and cleared the house?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 67 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So like if these kill ya, are you a WW2 fatality?

[–] Hubi 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not sure how it's handled in Japan but I know this is how it works in Germany and France, for both WW1 and WW2.

[–] tromars 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That sounds interesting, do you have a source for that where I can read more by any chance?

[–] Hubi 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here:

Social compensation benefits for war victims

War victims are entitled to social compensation benefits if their health was affected by events in connection with one of the two world wars.

The number of war victims and their surviving dependants is declining sharply due to demographic factors. However, there may still be people in the future who suffer from the effects of the world wars. This may be the case, for example, with mines, grenades or bombs that have not yet been discovered or rendered harmless - so-called unexploded ordnance. People who suffer damage to their health as a result of unexploded ordnance are entitled to social compensation benefits.

Source in German

I couldn't really find much else about the way it's handled locally, it's thankfully not really a common thing. I first heard about it in some TV documentary.

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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying, the US just bombed Japan?

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“Cap, why are you putting an 80-year fuse on that bomb?”

“Because they’ll never suspect it!”

His brother was in Bhutan, and he didn't quite understand the difference between a cold dish and a frozen one.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Huh? A timetraveling bomb was dropped?

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the bomb travelled forward in time at one minute per minute

[–] runeko@programming.dev 24 points 3 days ago

Truely, we are living in the future.

[–] Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was a dud; normally when bombs get dropped and don't explode, they're considered to be a potential hazard at any time, but most people think that these duds are so old they can't possibly be able to explode anymore.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago

In Europe we have a lot of old bombs laying around. We all know that when we dig up an old bomb we should get the hell away from it.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 10 points 3 days ago

Other unexploded ordinance dropped by the United States

Dropping bylaws on the masses

[–] Eideen@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I impressed that it have not exploded earlier.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

any explosive weapon will sometimes leave duds, there are GMLRS, javelin and excalibur duds documented. ww1 era shells could be the worst because by some estimates up to some 20% failed, then fuzes were often brass so they didn't corrode, but shell or bomb body were steel or cast iron so they did. when fuze gets almost set off then loses mechanical support it sometimes becomes more likely it'll be initiated on its own

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