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Congress faces a Sept. 30 deadline to fund the government or risk a shutdown.

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[–] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 147 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Maybe government shut downs should trigger a new congressional election. This is their fucking job, if they can't fund the Government, get out of the way

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago

I'm all for something like this but I would never assume the GOP wouldn't go nuclear like this just to kick out a Democrat they really dislike or time it when they think it's most advantageous (e.g. just after a redistricting).

The rule should probably be that failure to pass a bill means current funding is extended for 3 months with an increase based on inflation.

Nah. Too easy.

Lock the doors. Nobody in or out until they pass a fucking budget. Like, literally nobody. No aides. No food delivery. No medics. Fucking nothing. Until you pass the budget. The solution is simple: do your fucking job.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The only reason this happens is because our system is so weird. In every other country, funding is automatic and doesn't need to be authorized separately. The fix is to switch to a similar setup. Of course, that will never happen, as it would take away this bludgeon the GOP uses to try to get its way.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

It isn't automatic in the UK, but it is always a confidence vote, so if you can't pass the budget, your government is out.

[–] Wrufieotnak 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's not automatic everywhere! I'm pretty sure deciding where the money from the budget goes is the biggest decision the current government can take for shaping the country. But in other countries this is mostly passed by Parliament, where the government has the majority by design most of the time (that's why they are the ruling party or coalition). On the USA, the Congress and Senate thing is responsible for the deadlock.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 79 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A non-functioning government due to obstruction.

suggests threatening a shutdown

Thanks for the example of obstruction, Vance. Go buy another donut.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Like a bunch of different kinds. Whatever makes me look like an out of touch wingding.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 5 days ago

Okay. Good.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

wow, what a great answer; how long have you worked here?

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that’s not a weird question at all

right?

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Honestly it's not that weird a question when making idle chit chat. It becomes weird when that's the only thing you ask, follow it up with "Okay", and then proceed to do it six more times.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago

Whatever works.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I still think every time the government threatens a shutdown workers should start organizing to threaten a general strike. If the government saw union leaders organizing to strike once the government shuts down, they'd never let it shut down again. Exploit their weakness, if they want to stop governing, we should stop making the capital their owners desire.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

Oh, this is actually really smart. Too bad basically all the media and social platforms are owned by oligarchs.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Too bad government workers can't legally strike. That must be done by the unions.

Id wager most government workers wont need to strike during a government shutdown as most government jobs won't be functioning during the shutdown, they could march with the unions easily. The cops will be the largest group of gov employees still working and we don't wanna see them at the marches anyway.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Why have a functioning car if you can't go out and slash your own tires?

What the fuck kind of thinking...

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago

Hmmm, shutdown a non-functional government that you made non-functional? Seems like a you and your party problem.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 45 points 5 days ago

The GOP should shut down.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago

"Why isn't it functioning, JD?"

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

GOP: Is actively and willfully making the government non-functional.

Also GOP: "See? Government doesn't work!"

???

[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's been their #1 play for decades

EDIT: And somehow it has continued to work for them

[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I don't believe a government shutdown ever occurred at least in recent decades without the majority of the population blaming Republicans. Thinking back particularly to the times Ted Cruz orchestrated them.

[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

They do this almost every year. It's not even really a threat, anymore, just an expectation.

Vance is dumb* to come out and say it out loud because it makes him an easy possible scapegoat for the inevitable fury that a shutdown fight causes.

*Shocking, I know.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

As third worlder the idea of shutting down a government is just crazy to me. I only heard of government shutdowns as a US thing. Any other countries do this?

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago

How about, so our service men and women are guaranteed to get a paycheck? Is that a good enough reason couch fucker?

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

The fact that they can even shut down as often as they do is honestly ridiculous. When I don't do my fucking job I get fired.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago

Why even have a JD Vance if he's broken and fucked couches?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Why fuck a couch, Couch fucker?

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago

It still surprises me sometimes how stupid he is.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I agree, JD. I mean, why shouldn’t you kick yourself in the balls? Go on! Show those people! Do it!

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok so he thinks the government doesn't function now. And shutting it down will make it function. Dudes from Ohio all right.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

That's of course followed by putting in a strong dictator who makes it all work

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

It's actually kind of smart for the presidential campaign to push for a government shutdown. Republicans will get blamed, but not Trump specifically.

And everyone looks bad in a shutdown to median voters. The immediate reaction is "just make a deal" which means Biden-Harris admin looks bad too...not as bad as Congressional Republicans but also bad, surely there are people who will (incorrectly) not think Voter ID laws are important enough for all this fuss either way.

Of course, the problem is that the Trump team are being too obvious with it so they WILL be blamed if it happens, now.

Same thing happened with the border bill...would have been genius if it failed without Trump meddling.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Could say the same thing for Vance's brain

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

JD Vance drinks milk after brushing his teeth pass it on

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago

And orange juice. At the same time.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Leave it to Vance to milk some more couch time.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 days ago

Welp, we've already seen plenty from these folks about how they would "lead". No thanks.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Putting HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Working Class people out of Work before an Election is PROOF that REPUBLICANS Support the Working Class!

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Please Proceed Dipshit

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

You guys blew it - you could have had This beefcake as a Vice President but noooooo. You had to vote for Obama.

Beefcake! Beefcaaaake!!