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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I wish the US would adopt the UK quiz-show format. It’s like late night rv except it’s like 4-5 funny people on a rotating panel doing the show instead of one dude.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

America needs 8 out of 10 Cats!

Taylor Tomlinson's show, at Midnight is trying for it

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I first heard about the show I was fairly dismissive. Had no clue who she was.

Now I watch almost every night (even reruns). Taylor is such an awesome host. The guests are great. The show is non stop absurdity in the best way.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I like her comedy, but as a host, she laughs at shit that's just not funny to be nice, I guess. It would be better if she didn't laugh and give points, and instead challenged the panelists to do better. I realize that might not be the best strategy to attract guests, but if the roast battles can keep finding people, hopefully this show could too if the guests realized they needed to bring it, or get flamed

[–] plzExplainNdetail@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

She talks about laughing on some podcast but I can't remember which one. Anyway, she said that most comics don't really haha/laugh out loud at great jokes, but will simply say that's a great joke with approval. So being the host on tv she is having to train herself to laugh at loud at things. The show is scripted and the footage cut up post filming so some people/contestants are funnier but they couldn't air it or their words were tempered by the writers/editors. Here's one interview podcast with her and Conan https://youtu.be/qDkFXrS-P-8?si=t9MqFHltXbSm0ccG

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wanted a US Taskmaster run by Conan and Jordan Schlansky ...

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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Those shows are a product of deeper cultural differences than it seems at first , in that they're not conducive to fanning the egos of celebs.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd take 8 out of 10 cats any day of the week

[–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just discovered them! And countdown! Please someone make this happen

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Countdown is sp good too!

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I wish. Maybe we should start one, ya?

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Canned laughter and "stars" I just do not give a shit about. I'd rather watch some youtuber give me their take.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I really like the Daily Show interviews. They’re usually with authors and subject matter experts rather than just straight celebrities. When they do have celebrities on I find they’re more interesting and not just “famous actor with forced anecdote” but more someone with an idea or perspective to share. Whereas, for example, I love Colbert’s monologues but once we get to the celebrity piece I lose interest.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

I always tuned out when they got to interviews. I was just there for stuff like Conan going to Cuba or messing around with interns or playing video games.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How about neither. Turns out I don't care about YouTubers just as much as I don't care about Kardashians.

There are a few exceptions where the content speaks for itself like Alt-Shift-X and Climate Town.

A difference with those vs late night shows is I am seeking them out, not just passively watching a thing.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'd rather watch Jimmy Kimmel over a random YouTuber.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would definitely expect that from someone with your username.

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[–] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but what about a not random one but a decent one that puts out good stuff consistently?

The majority of YouTube is trash and it takes time to cultivate something decent. Just like Lemmy

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[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That’s a pretty low bar though.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I stopped watching late night talk shows when they fucked over Conan

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago
[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I stopped watching once Carson took over. Way too goddamn self referential! Bring back Paar!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jack Paar was just a Wish.com Jack Benny. Now Jack Benny--there was a man who knew how to crack wise!

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow the only noun I recognise here is "man"

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Jack Benny was a real cracker jack wag, see!? The man was a huckleberry above persimmons!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He's probably right. There are so many streaming options chock full of excellent content. There isn't anyone on late night that is so good that it's worth trying to catch live. Anything interesting enough will be available as a highlight.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Especially because it’s all on YouTube the next day

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its on youtube the day before too. Its not like the writers are coming up with their own jokes. Its almost all stolen content on these late night shows.

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

Jimmy Fallon in particular reminds me of those accounts that profit off of reposting other people's popular content while they're in the corner pointing at it. Every guest he has on, he's just talking about printouts of social media.

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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Catch live? No, but that's true for any TV, I watch shows when I want to watch them.

Colbert, Meyers, The Daily Show are all great. I like Kimmel as well sometimes.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but if you aren't watching them live, then why make them every day? You're not watching the ads, so the value of streaming the content for free is diminished. Wouldn't a Last Week Tonight format work much better?

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I mean I am watching them every day, on YouTube either that same night or the next day.

Last Week Tonight is a good format as well but I like the interviews as well as the main show.

Sure some are just fluff of an actor talking about a role they are in, some are a politician giving their thoughts, some are writers explaining an idea or concept. It's usually light, but it's usually a good watch.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Will network TV even exist in ten years? I imagine the boomers are holding the fort right now.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Network tv should replace cable at this point. Both are ad-supported and there are plenty of sub channels to just air all the reruns and cheap programming that cable airs. As cable dies, I expect studios to switch to just streaming and OTA.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 12 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised we haven't seen a major consolidation in cable TV as most channels are owned by like 3 companies that air all the same shit on all their channels. Long gone are the days where a channel actually catered to a niche topic like science or animals. Everything is just reruns or reality shows.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

as long as they don't pull that let that ATSC 3.0 bullshit. I fear nothing will be free in the future. Forced ads you can't block or fast forward through, no ability to mute, targeted advertisement and loss of privacy (yes with OTA). ref

The worst part is I'm 100% sure the general public wouldn't give a shit since they get more and better channels with the "upgrade".

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[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I think there will always be a place for 1 or 2 late night shows. Great hosts are few and far between but the best ones really are fun to watch.

[–] freeman 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arent Late-Night shows glorified ads?

I've never watched more than 5', mostly funny interview-clips, and its mostly actors or authors who are promoting their latest work. But that might be my ignorance and uninformedness

[–] greenhorn@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

And mostly scripted ads at that? I never really watch them either, but they don't feel like the spontaneous conversations they appear to be, just scripted ads and rehearsed bits

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Bruh. Who the fuck watches tv. It’s garbage. Except for like Nova and some other public television.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I watched some olympics coverage on the various NBC channels over the last few weeks, and every single commercial I saw for their regular TV shows made me want to blow my brains out.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's been years since anyone asked me, "You haven't seen that funny ad?!"

"No, I haven't. It's on TV or something?"

There are 10-million human lifetimes of content on YouTube if I want video, 100-million if I want to read. I'm subbed to a few dozen channels with a vast range of interests. Often wake up with 12 tabs open of stuff I didn't get to. Couple of clicks and it's all on a 55" TV for everyone to enjoy.

I can probably drag in 12 or so OTA channels and still haven't bothered to tie in an antennae. Thought about it many times over the years, and despite completing 100 other dumb tech projects, I can't be arsed.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Dude, there definitely won't be. We've known that for a while now. And it won't take as long as 10 years.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Broadcast TV is losing all relevancy. At 70 i now rarely watch any network TV at all.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're 70 and know about lemmy? Do you work in the tech industry?

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[–] numberfour002@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the world changes. Old stagnant ideas that don't keep up tend to mostly die out. It's not a particularly shocking conclusion to arrive at.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

Yeah I think with the internet we're just outgrowing the Network Late Night format. Hot Ones, chicken shop date, the GQ "X celebrity breaks down their iconic roles" videos, Vanity Fair interviews, etc have taken the original idea of having a celebrity promote their new thing and innovated on it. Meanwhile network late night is more censored and produced so it's hamstrung and comes across as inauthentic.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

literally all they have to do is get good hosts and I'll watch it. I was watching The Tonight Show almost every night until it was revealed what a shitty boss Jimmy Fallon is

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even then I'd rather watch the host do almost anything else. I love Conan but really have no interest in the late night format. His travel shows are great though.

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

well, that was the thing. Conan knew that, that's why his show was like 50% remotes. same with James Corden, it was the shit they recorded outside the studio that made them popular. even with jimmy f., his show is constantly crammed full of gimmicks, the only one doing a straight talk show anymore is Stephen Colbert and he's turned into a political intellectual. I don't mean that insultingly, but that's not what I'm looking for at 12:30 a.m.

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