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The news that President Joe Biden would not run for re-election caused a stir not only in America, but also in Russia, where pro-Kremlin propagandists are kicking up a fuss about what it would mean for their beloved Donald Trump.

Appearing on Monday’s broadcast of a state TV show 60 Minutes, State Duma member Oleg Matveychev complained that Biden’s move is a disaster for Trump’s election chances. “He is left without any trump cards!” Matveychev said. “Previously, he could easily attack Biden’s health, now he has nothing left to attack. More than that, attacking Biden at this point would be seen as inappropriate and rude.”

“Now they’re switching to [Vice President Kamala Harris] and are trying to attack her, but nothing new will stick to her,” Matveychev added. “Bringing up the fact she is not quite white will only activate her electorate.”

Russian state TV’s coverage of Harris—which is a carbon copy of what is playing on Fox News—was largely limited Monday to attempts at mocking her laughter.

Matveychev said that Biden’s departure from the race rendered the previous agenda obsolete. Discussing the age of the U.S. president or an assassination attempt against Trump is now yesterday’s news, he argued.

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[–] YaksDC@lemm.ee 133 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This line was very telling "Russian state TV’s coverage of Harris—which is a carbon copy of what is playing on Fox News..."

Fox News is basically a Russian state propaganda arm.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well of course, that's what Tucker's been doing out there.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought Tucker got booted?

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He went over and interviewed Putin after he got the boot, in an attempt at continuing his "job" as a political hack.

Summary: It was a disaster. Tucker basically had to sit there and listen to Putin sidetrack the entire thing with his own version of history (a lot of which was demonstrably false), not answering Tuckers question, and generally making it clear that he believes his own propaganda. Now and then Tucker tried to connect his answers to his own agenda, but Putin didn't care and kept on with his rambling. In the end it was two people in the room not taking part of the same conversation, and Tucker ended up posting the entire thing to X anyway, not wanting to seem like he was hiding anything.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Only true assholes mock someone for how they sound when filled with joy. To take something as innocuous as a laugh and assign value to it only serves to make people self conscious of their own laughter and seek to change it to some imaginary perfect laugh. Let people feel joy for fucks sake. These arguments are so gossamer thin at this point that if a competent human got up and gave an actually rousing speech, all of politics would fucking collapse.

Either way, I'm voting Kamala or whoever ends up blue, but Prosecutor Kamala vs 34 time Convicted Felon Donald Trump is as good as any other we could conjure in the next 107 days.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 month ago

Only true assholes mock someone for how they sound when filled with joy.

Well the article did say it's US conservatives and Russia…

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Either way, I’m voting Kamala or whoever ends up blue, but Prosecutor Kamala vs 34 time Convicted Felon Donald Trump is as good as any other we could conjure in the next 107 days.

There's the sexism and racism worry in my mind. Americans have voted for Obama before though.

Kamala seems like the right person to step up to the plate though. I think her performance in 2020 VP debates was underrated and that on the national stage she will outperform expectations. But its also important to note that Kamala hasn't taken charge yet. We still have to wait and see how she comes out of this.

Democrats are doing the right thing by building support and hope for her. Its up to Kamala to deliver here on out. A relatively young lawyer + experienced Attorney General gives the right credentials for the job however.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Even with the convention being open, she has the California delegates on lock. Which is like 12% of delegates. With the bone fides of being former vice president and no one other than Marianne "Crystal Huckster" Williamson, I think she will do fine in the convention and hopefully be the woman we need her to be. Some of the more recent campaign events with her have been very rousing.

But we do gotta show up and show out for her. Knock doors.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Does Trump even laugh? I don't recall ever hearing him do it.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't laugh because he's a fucking psycho.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Joker disapproves.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The closest I've ever seen is that muppet/froggy grin he does when he thinks he's getting away with something. I think he has a joy deficiency.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

He probably barks out a "ha" sometimes but joylessly. I mean maybe be if he screwed over some orphans we get a belly laugh?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Holy shit, I hadn't even realized it. I can distinctly remember each recent president laughing (at least mildly), except for Trump.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It would be horribly unsettling to hear him do so. And the rare Trump laugh would be at the most awful, evil thing, I'm sure.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At this point a Trump win is pretty much Putin's only chance of a positive outcome for Russia in Ukraine. No wonder the fuckers are all panicked.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How many days after Trump loses do you think it will take them to pull out of Ukraine? Or will it be flash in the pan assault, mission accomplished but not really, demilitarized zone kind of ending?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Definitely the second.

The war has been going long enough that Russia's economy has retooled for wartime production. They are propping GDP up by spending oil revenues on war production and maintaining consumer confidence through their continuous propaganda, to pull that prop suddenly would likely result in a massive economic collapse.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Putin has no other option but to keep going at this point. So they'll be throwing meat waves into the grinder until they finally run out of meat.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

That depends on if the dems take the house. At least the degree of where the lines get drawn in the end will.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

As an outsider looking at American politics, I'd like to think I'm looking at the bigger picture. I want Democrats to win the White House, because a fascist winning the American presidential election means all the past 80 years of building international rules and institutions to prevent another World War will be undone by the invasion of Ukraine. Trump winning means Ukraine will lose. I'm sure Democrats knew fully well the gravity of situation not just domestically, but also internationally.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone is focused on the content, but I'm here to appreciate the title of this article. The journalist must have been waiting a long time to bust out the alliteration

[–] suction@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmm yeah but he capped out after 3 - wanted more

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Putin's Pals Panic Prospective President Parts with Presidential Plans, past Previous Problems Ponders Pension

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I like how the best they've got is "Look at this bitch laugh. What's she laughing about? ~~Probably your penis. She's probably joking about it with your ex right now~~"

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

More than that, attacking Biden at this point would be seen as inappropriate and rude.

Yes, something being "inappropriate and rude" has always stopped Trump before. He's a real beacon of upstanding behavior.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They really should've switched him out earlier

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, doing this at the same time as the RNC really took the wind out of their sails. I'm not saying that's what happened, but the result is the same.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 29 points 1 month ago

Yes, and... It emphasizes that JD Vance is a super-lightweight with a thin record. Like Trump.

All hat, no cattle.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

As bad as it is for Democrats to have had their strategy built up around Biden this whole time, Republicans are also going to struggle changing up their message.

Republicans have been talking about how Biden is unfit for office and needs to resign. Guess what? He's out. So now what? Are Republicans willing to talk about how a 78 year old demented and borderline schizophrenic Trump sees enemies around every corner and caters to conspiracy theories?

Or does age suddenly not matter now that Trump is the oldest one? Obviously Republicans can pivot, but it will take them several weeks to come up with new avenues of attack vs whoever the Democrats choose (even if everyone knows its like 90%+ likely to be Kamala Harris)

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Because of the 2 party system, it is much more effective to make your opponent look bad rather than make your candidate look good.

The GOP have wasted so much money on campaigning against Biden, that they lost a lot more than the Democrats did.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely. They were trying to hide it for months and Biden's frailty was obvious well before even Jon Stewart pointed it out.

At the highest levels, you need pros in there helping you, and they should be honest. You should also trust what they say, even when it's painful. He should have done it last year so that the Democrats could find the strongest candidate.

That being said, I think Kamala's (assuming she's the one) strongest opponent will be herself. They'll be looking for any little things and we have 4 months to go. If she's able to maintain a strong message and nothing trips her up, she's got this.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I think she has a shot to win this, better than Biden, but it's going to be tough still. I like how Republicans are targeting her now and one of three topics they're focusing on is that she's "weird". It included laughing at strange monents and her loving Venn diagrams lmao