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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I would vote for any viable candidate not Trump. I would prefer not Biden and not Harris. In fact I’d prefer a sane Republican… but there seems to be a distinct lack of them.

I’d vote for AOC though. She reminds me of the principled republicans of yore, albeit with different views

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

In fact I’d prefer a sane Republican…

This is a trap. Even with a "sane" Republican in office, the administration will still work to accomplish the policy goals of the GOP.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yup, Project 2025 is not just Trump and a few MAGA extremists, it's signed off on by all the right-wing think tanks. If people want to avoid Project 2025 they need to make sure Republicans are out of power for multiple election cycles at a minimum.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How about implementing Ranked choice voting so there is a chance Republicans would vote for a more moderate group of people ?

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I'm all for ranked choice, there's no real downside. I think though that Republicans, rather than become less extreme, would simply challenge ranked choice when it started to benefit the left. They are actually doing this now in Alaska, where there is ranked choice voting and they're trying to make it illegal with a ballot initiative.

They'd have to have their judicial power reduced I think. With the extremist supreme court there isn't much in the regard that would stand I don't think. Could be wrong though.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yes, this. No Republicans at all should be allowed into office. Ever. Don't let them fool you, the agenda marches on regardless if they are "moderate" or "reasonable" or not.

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Basically all sane republicans have been pushed off the national stage in the last 8 years.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

There's never really been such a thing. Anyone who would be an old school republican today has just become an obstructionist right-wing democratic, so arguably worse than a Republican because they sabotage from the inside.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Besides McCain, which notable sane republican existed in the Obama era?

Pre-Obama we were dealing with the Bush-era neocons.

They haven’t been sane for at least the last twenty years.

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Compared to today's Republicans, I'd argue Mitt Romney was relatively sane, though he's still quite problematic.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sane in a, "I'm a total Mormon and all the shit that comes with that" type way. I blame the Bible belt for mainstreaming mormonism.

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Oh for sure, and he was very deep into Mormonism too, but at least he's not an out-and-out Nazi and has been very vocally against Trump.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Which ones were sane in the Ronnie Raygun era? Most of the Bush team were retreads from those days.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I would not say they were "sane" per se, it's just that they've been replaced by even more overt bare-faced extremists. The Overton window on what is extremely right wing keeps getting pushed more and more to the right. A loud mouth performative asshole they believe is beyond punishment due to his "billions" has given them a permission structure to be who they always really wanted to be. These are the people that didn't understand that Archie Bunker was supposed to be a parody, not a hero.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 32 points 4 months ago

In fact I’d prefer a sane Republican

I can't think of a single one. Even the ones that pretended to be sane and were pushed out by the party were horrible.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

I’d prefer a sane Republican

It's funny to me that Biden is currently both the most liberal and the most conservative presidential candidate.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You would prefer a sane Republican but you praise AOC that is at the opposite end of the spectrum...

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

principled republicans of yore

Is that before all the GoP and DNC switched sides over slavery?

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I’m not that old, no

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In fact I’d prefer a sane Republican… but there seems to be a distinct lack of them.

The three I can remember from the Trump years (Kinzinger, Cheney, and Romney) have pretty much been run out on a rail haven't they? Republicans don't want sane Republicans, and anyone who appears to be one is going to get ostracized within the party, or turn out to be just like all the rest.

They are walking around with bandages on their ears in solidarity with a man who immediately rushed to sell shitty Chinese shoes to commemorate and make a profit off of the assassination attempt which killed one of his own supporters. There are no sane Republicans. There are crazy Republicans, cowardly Republicans, and probably a few with Stockholm Syndrome. They let the inmates take over the asylum and there is no cleaning house now.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah most conservatives who are republicans are getting pretty psychotic. The independents and the ones who switched to Democrat can still be okay though