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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Donald Trump just threatened Mark Zuckerberg with jail for life because he THINKS Facebook could be used against him.

Zuckerberg is in Trump's fucking pocket already.

Trying to save yourself by not pressing charges won't make Trump forget your face, your name, or the fact that you told him "No," once in his life, which is enough for him to want to destroy your life entirely.

Everyone who said this person is protecting themselves and their family is missing the point that if Trump takes power in November he will absolutely go out of his way to ruin this person's fucking life (and their families lives) even though they didn't press charges.

Is that fucking worth it? To save your family for a short time just for fascists to never forget you told them no and ruin your fucking life anyway?

He is willing to attack people who are literally in his fucking pocket and threaten to jail them for life. He has worse in mind for this person. I guarantee it.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Spoken with the easy courage of someone whose family isn’t in the crosshairs

I agree with you that this should be a HUGE deal, but if the institutions who are the ones actually responsible for going after Trump are not going to act, why should this one guy be responsible to take a purely futile stand about it that might get him killed? I agree that he is not safe whatever he does, but amping up the conflict will make him less safe.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If you don't think these asshats will dox and harass this person anyway without even pressing charges, I've got a bridge to fucking sell you.

They told Trump "no," that's enough of a crime in the eyes of these right wing freaks.

Further, no one is saying they need to do it alone. If asshats can organize to harass them, can't we organize to protect them? This is literally what I mean by nobody will back each other up. Instead of organizing as a group to protect that person, we act like it's their personal responsibility to fight it and then go "oh shucks" when they don't. Jeeze, maybe it's because we didn't back them up.

Isn't that why the Black Panthers fucking existed, because they knew they couldn't trust the cops?

But I guess organizing and protecting people like that is too much to ask.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We could organize to get Trump some consequences for any number of the explicitly treasonous things he has done, without involving some third party in the potentially deadly consequences if they don’t want to become further involved than they are. Nothing was ever preventing that.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Nothing was ever preventing that.

Gotcha, so this is a tacit admission everyone in the USA is just a giant pussy out to save themselves, with no concern for the collective. Because we've been turning our tails and letting Trump get away with what-the-fuck-ever for literally over a decade now.

No wonder this country is falling to fascism.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Our communities were sold, literally, to capitalism and marketing. Free community spaces and events are encroached on every day. That's why they want to defend libraries, for instance - too much free shit being given out. You can't even organize at a library because you're supposed to be quiet there. It's just that capitalism seeks capital in everything including free services. So it takes little bites off everything until we don't have benches or bathrooms or trash in parks anymore because we can instead force people to pay to use those services at the nearby gas station or whatever.

This country is falling to fascism because we literally do not have things like free spaghetti socials anymore. We have no community. If the cemetery worker had neighbors who cared about her and were part of her community, they'd look out for her and she'd be safe.

Go to your town hall and demand more free community events. This will fight fascism.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 2 months ago

What have you done?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Bruh, you weren't even willing to risk your bank account to set up a gofundme for the lady, but here you are telling her to risk her life? Aren't you also in the same group, then?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Courage isn't easy. Fear is the very definition.