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[–] awake01@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She is spot on. Harris doesn't make a better top of ticket.

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago (8 children)

If they take Biden off the ticket they're gonna put a corporate puppet in power. Fuck, I wonder if they're trying to get Trump elected on purpose.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reading these comments here, it's obvious either 1. This thread is filled with shills or 2. Democrats have learned NOTHING from Hillary and are ready to score an own goal at the 89th minute.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'll admit it, I don't want her, either (not that someone like me has any influence). But she'd be a better option than Joe.

Especially if she picks the right VP. And please, for fucks sake, I hope they do a good job picking a VP. Don't rule out cishet white males, as a for instance, FFS. The Democrats love to play stupid identity political games and constantly do these self-owns. Although if AOC has a clone they could choose as a VP, that would be fantastic. But that's not because they tick some arbitrary set of diversity checkboxes....it's about policies.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Well, yeah. She has an even worse chance of winning than the guy with covid for brains

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[–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

This summary from the Independent necessarily cuts out a lot of the nuance of AOC's points - I say "necessarily" because she spoke on Instagram for a full hour - and one thing that she seemed to emphasize - more than the "They don't 100% support Harris either" point - is there there is very little time remaining in the election year to make any changes to the ticket. There are just weeks until the Democratic convention, and Ohio requires the names to be finalized even before that. She also emphasized that any change to the ticket, especially any late change, increases the chance that the presidency will ultimately be decided - if not by the bureaucracy of a swing state, many of which, like Ohio, are Republican-controlled - then by a legal case that goes before the (corrupt, she didn't need to explain, although there were arch eyebrows at this point) Supreme Court, which is just not an ideal situation for democracy.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

She acts like that's a bad thing. It's the truth, and it's not the "elites," it's most democratic voters, donors, and a sizeable percentage of political elites, i.e. senators and congress people. Don't look now, AOC, but you are one of the elites.

Trading Biden for Harris is just allowing Trump to campaign against the same administration and trading a guy too old to effectively communicate for someone who is just ineffective at communicating.

I don't want Harris only slightly less than I don't want Biden. They're both losers, but not in the vague insulting sense: in the sense that they're both likely to lose to Trump.

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm interested in botany too, but will eagerly vote for a Harris-(anyone) ticket over a Trump-Vance ticket. But for real I want to learn how to keep orchids alive.

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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

AOC and the left didn't want Biden either in the first place. It's not like the left is going to go vote Trump.

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