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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 118 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Yeah. His family was conservative and pro-2A. Whatever the narrative is here, it isn't a left-wing thing. The way the right has a fetish for guns, no one is surprised.

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Shrug... I always assume gun enthusiasts have a dozen or more. If you're going to have one or two, you may as well have a dozen. You can only pop one at a time anyway.

I know many folks don't like guns but since guns are allowed, it's worth understanding that collecting them and learning about them is a hobby just like any other.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All gun enthusiasts I know have many. And if I could be arsed going through the necessary paperwork of getting ownership permits (Not murican), I would as well.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Guns are like tattoos. If you're into them, you probably have a bunch.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not what you'd call an "enthusiast", I just hunt. And between friends and relatives, you just kinda end up with extra shotguns and rifles. I give some to new hunters but it seems like the old relatives all get out of it and if they know you hunt, you end up with them

I read these stories about "lunatic gunman had a dozen firearms" and cue up look-away-meme.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

Worth keeping in mind the dude is 20 and lives with his parents. The vast majority of them probably aren't his. The economy isn't that good.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is super, SUPER normal for this area. Seriously. This is like announcing the shooter had a dog and propane grill in the back yard.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is super, SUPER normal for this area.

I mean, “more than a dozen” covers a lot of ground. Does that mean 15? Sure, that’s probably normal. 50? That’s weird.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Oh but you know NBC would say DOZENS! if there were 50.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does that mean 15? Sure, that’s probably normal.

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Americans are weird.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Propane?! Clearly they are a terrorist of some flavor

/s

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Taste the meat not the heat.

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Relatedly (arc),

In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.

It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

From the details that have come out about him already I would be surprised if he wasn't referred as that before. It is actually a pretty common "nickname" for kids that don't fit in even when they don't have hunting as a main personality trait already.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

I used to get called the Columbine kid all the time for being goth back in my day, among other bullying

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

His classmates said he was a loner, but because he was a bully, not because he was the quiet kid.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As part of their investigation into what could have motivated Thomas Crooks to carry out the shooting, the FBI accessed his cellphone — but a preliminary analysis found the information was not helpful for investigators, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.

The thing is, we legitimately can't believe them.

It may just be after the Vegas shooter they stopped saying they found motive if they're not gonna release the motive.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My guess is that the motive is the same as every school shooting, except that shooting at schools became too normie now.

And if there has to be shootings, I personally wouldn't mind replacing the usual targets to politicians instead of school kids.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What were they expecting to find? A pile of Blåhaj? The Communist Manifesto?

[–] card797@champserver.net 5 points 1 month ago

*hoping to find, yes.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

The headline is about the guns but the article section on Data is really interesting, especially if you don't know how they score potential voters for targeted messages.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are they still saying "suspected" shooter?

How much evidence does one need before they can definitely say something?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He was never convicted in a court of law. They are always "suspected ______" until they are "convicted _____". Since we don't try people posthumously (yet), they will never be convicted.

Colloquially, people will just stop saying that detail. But it's still there.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I imagine once the investigation is closed, they'll stop using "suspected".

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[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 14 points 1 month ago

Breaking News: Man who used gun owns more than one gun.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Oh imagine the surprise! People with an unhealthy gun fetish have other mental issues, too!

[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What other kinds of guns were found? I mean specifics. Handguns? Shotguns? Rifles?

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

Little bit of hunting experience here. Let's say I'm hunting a deer.

If I miss no big deal. The problems begin when the shot hits the deer but doesn't kill it. Their adrenaline sours the meat. And, one needs to chase it down to humanely kill it. No matter how hard I try I'll eventually miss and maim a deer.

I do two things preventatively: First, I don't take a shots without good chance of a one shot kill. Second, I'm always prepared ASAP to send the second round, and a third. My accuracy drops severely for the fourth in practice. So, I don't shoot a fourth outside of practice.

This shooter couldn't close the range for a better shot. He also wasn't prepared for a miss. The second round should be down range almost immediately, even on a bolt action and especially on a wisely chosen bolt action. He was a smidgeon of humility away from a greatly increased chance of success.

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