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[–] protist@mander.xyz 78 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Check out this hot take from Politico:

Their initial aim was to stop Le Pen’s party winning an outright majority, which seemed a likely outcome a week ago. It seems instead their efforts may have handed the initiative to the other extreme of French politics, the far-left.

MΓ©lenchon said the New Popular Front would want to implement its manifesto, including revoking Macron’s controversial pensions reforms and introducing big hikes in the minimum wage.

The extremism is horrifying!

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Never mind the Holocaust-denying public media-disbanding police-empowering Putin-asskissing Right, the real threat is the pension-giving, minimum wage-setting Left!!

They're EXTREMIST! Both sides!!

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This false horseshoe is so dumb. Although Melanchon has some problems, especially his views on Ukraine and Russia :/

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 1 points 4 months ago

No doubt, fuck Melanchon and whatever horse he rode in on. I don't understand how they haven't gotten rid of him already.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Disappointing from Politico, I thought they had a good read on politics but it seems they're incompetent enough to not be able to understand the french political landscape: the far left is mostly composed of NPA and LO who are trying to gain power through revolution, not the classic socdem parties playing by the elections rules

Edit : wow thanks for the context, friends, didn't know they had changed owners

[–] HaiZhung 40 points 4 months ago

Politico is owned by Axel Springer, who publishes the BILD yellow paper in Germany.

I would not expect anything from them TBH.

[–] Ooops 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Politico was bought years ago by German Axel Springer SE, the producers of trash like BILD and WELT (also a short-lived BILD TV that was designed as a best-of between RT and Fox News). They don't have a clue about french politics, just like they don't have a clue about anything else. All they got is a right-wing desinformation agenda.

[–] bob_lemon 12 points 4 months ago

politico is owned by Axel Springer and should therefore not be taken seriously.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They'd be wise to not have Melenchon to be a candidate for Macron's position though, because he still has some actually extreme views. If they can present a more moderate option then that'd be a good step though. Either way, Le Pen lost again, and that's the main goal here.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

This was just an election for the French parliament. Macron is president, who is directly elected by the French public. However the next presidential election is in 2027.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

That's the biggest issue with the left right now, we need someone sane so not melanchon

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 65 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good news? In this day and age???

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Still a lot of additional seats for RN from 88 to ~~130-150~~ 143. It's not all good, just less bad than expected.

It seems a lot less bad though?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the world, localized entirely within France!?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Nah, UK had some too.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 45 points 4 months ago

Wow. I was really worried about France this morning. I mean, the far right is still really strong there but I honestly expected them to.get the majority.

Apes together strong indeed.

[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Although the projection is better than what I was dreading, it's still not over until the last results are in. With that being said, if these projections are right, the current and upcoming French government should really start thinking about how to combat the far right. Incidentally it's the same task the new Labour government should also do.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The new Labour government is basically the political equivalent of Macron only in some ways further to the Right (for example, they support Israel).

That party is controlled by the neoliberal faction who brought down Corbyn with a smear campaign orchestrated with the Tories and most of the British Press and who have even been busy kicking out from the party any lefties.

There's not a single leftie bone in the leadership of that party and the party is now straightforward Right (per broader European standards, it's not even Center-Right).

If one is in any way form of shape left of center, Britain's Election results isn't anywhere the level of good news that the French Election results are (if the polls are right).

[–] Random_German_Name 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

First Scandinavia, then Britain and now France! We can defeat the far right!

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 7 points 4 months ago

And with any luck they won't successfully manage to leave the entire continent in ruins this time around. Whenever it works, defeating fascists at the ballot feels so easy that it's almost anticlimactic.

Everyone involved with organisation these last months know damn well that it wasn't easy, though. Super proud of the French today! πŸ‡«πŸ‡·

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 18 points 4 months ago
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How did it turn around so much?

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It didn't. It's a two-round system. It's one thing to win a plurality in round one, it's another to win a majority in round two.

This is exactly how it's been going for the last N elections.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago

Except usually in Macron's favor. But yeah, as soon as the choices shrink, people unify behind whoever is countering the Nazi cunt.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

as a foreigner living in France, i was very concerned with the prospect of the RN gaining control of parliament. This is good news indeed.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

This is not what I was expecting at all. Big congratulations to the frogs, you can breathe a small sigh of relief, I was dreading Le Pen

[–] 332@feddit.nu 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Congrats and good job to our french friends! Maybe we can dig ourselves out of this far right resurgence after all.

[–] TheFin@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago

Via Lafrance

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

First Kansas, now France?!? The world's gone topsy turvy!

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Mexico as well, our new president-elect is a physicist, a climate scientist no less, did her PhD training at the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory... the very same one we saw the early days of in "Oppenheimer".

Sheinbaum is also a progressive, on paper seems spectacularly qualified for her six-year term as president.
Mexico - particularly the young and working classes - voted in a landslide for her, and gave her a congressional majority on both chambers, to boot.

Mexico voted very wisely this year.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

UK has hardly gone far left…

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 6 points 4 months ago

Well, they haven't gone far right either, which nowadays counts as a win for me.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago

From nearly fascists that election was going quite far left.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Having gotten this win, now PLEASE don't fuck it up or we'll be in shits creek anyway 4 years down the road

[–] gkpy 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)