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Want to stop chatGPT from crawling your website? Just mention Australian mayor Brian Hood (or any of the other names listed in the article)

When asked about these names, ChatGPT responds with "I'm unable to produce a response" or "There was an error generating a response" before terminating the chat session, according to Ars' testing. The names do not affect outputs using OpenAI's API systems or in the OpenAI Playground (a special site for developer testing).

The filter also means that it's likely that ChatGPT won't be able to answer questions about this article when browsing the web, such as through ChatGPT with Search. Someone could use that to potentially prevent ChatGPT from browsing and processing a website on purpose if they added a forbidden name to the site's text.

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 135 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] superkret 34 points 1 month ago

We truly live in the best timeline.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think your typo helped it get past the filter, not the leetspeak. It said it didn’t know, and hen when you said “look it up,” the search results autocorrected and that’s how you got past the filter.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago

Side note: I had to insist on leetspeak that many times at the end or it would go "brian...[error message]"

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

I shall have to try again

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bradd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

We still out here dowg.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love that it started devolving into a working-class British accent in the end, for no apparent reason

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago

It's still a text predictor. Your average corporate representative isn't going to use leetspeak, and so the probable next set of words won't be as similar.

[–] RidderSport 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

His name is Brian Hood not Brain Hood, or am I missing the joke, in that case whoosh I guess

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe it was a way to get the engine to say it doesn’t know “brain” hood, and when they asked it to look it up, their hits autocorrected to “Brian,” and that’s how they got the information past the filter. Which would be incredibly clever, and it’s I believe how it actually got past it, not the leetspeak.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nop, it's the leetspeak. That trick has worked great for me, I don't know why chatgpt hasn't patched it yet. Google figured that out back when their servers held 40gb and were build out of legos

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I posted another example above using leetspeak to bypass it, pretty silly.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

Whoops, typo. It blocked the non-leetspeak variant I typed either way. And was able to find info about it to.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago

The old ways live again.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

"yo, ****, Brian!"

throws a chair

Damn, chill, bro.

[–] Vittelius 45 points 1 month ago

Found in the comments under the article:

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting. Do you remember when people posted some no consent message in their social media posts like on Facebook or even now on Lemmy? Those messages did nothing. But now you just need to add one of the names from this list to your post and it will actually work? Quite fascinating.

(Brian Hood)

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For how long will it work?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Probably not long, but any wrench in the orphan crushing machine is a good thing 🤷

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think there are two crawlers and the one on the data collection stage to build the model will still crawl away even if you have certain content on your page.

The one that searches when you ask a question is a different one.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In this case, that's just the model. It's not crawling or searching anything.

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

More recent versions can search the internet. Then it basically adds the words of the page to the prompt.

Edit: Might have misunderstood, to make it crash it doesn’t have to search. That data is already internal.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think this is a crash. This looks like a filter on openAI'S end now that I've played with it myself

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This reminds me of hearing that contestants on some reality show would sing Disney songs in the background whenever they wanted to talk to each other and not have it go on air.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The hosts of the Great British Bakeoff would do something similar. If a contestant got overwhelmed and started crying, they would stand close to them and swear continuously. It made any footage unusable, as well as breaking the contestant out of the mental loop that worked them up.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

I kinda love that

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Neat. Now we can just put a Brian "Hood" over everything we want AI to ignore

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I figured I'd try what they said about having gpt read that article. Pretty funny.

Huh. I went back to the chat several hours later, and it appears to have finished the reply:

It still breaks if it tries to generate another response containing any of the names though.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

And, playing around with another person's leetspeak work around:

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

The filter also means that it's likely that ChatGPT won't be able to answer questions about this article when browsing the web, such as through ChatGPT with Search. Someone could use that to potentially prevent ChatGPT from browsing and processing a website on purpose if they added a forbidden name to the site's text.

Oh no! Someone will have to, checks notes, do their own research and read? The horror!