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Kamala Harris has been lying low since her defeat in the presidential race, unwinding with family and senior aides in Hawaii before heading back to the nation’s capital.

But privately, the vice president has been instructing advisers and allies to keep her options open — whether for a possible 2028 presidential run, or even to run for governor in her home state of California in two years. As Harris has repeated in phone calls, “I am staying in the fight.”

She is expected to explore those and other possible paths forward with family members over the winter holiday season, according to five people in the Harris inner circle, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal dynamics. Her deliberations follow an extraordinary four months in which Harris went from President Joe Biden’s running mate to the top of the ticket, reenergizing Democrats before ultimately crashing on election night.

“She doesn’t have to decide if she wants to run for something again in the next six months,” said one former Harris campaign aide. “The natural thing to do would be to set up some type of entity that would give her the opportunity to travel and give speeches and preserve her political relationships.”

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. She's no longer a viable candidate.

But I'm sure the DNC will think differently, which is one more reason why this timeline is the worst.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago

Luckily, the DNC strips their underwear only for Hillary Clinton, so Kamala should be okay

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago

A mediocre candidate who lost the 2020 primary badly and only got the VP spot because she was buddies with Bidens dead son. She them went on to lose badly to Trump.

I voted for her but it was really a vote for Not Trump. Hopefully this the last we hear of her.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 76 points 1 day ago

2028 presidential run

Please fucking don't.

[–] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I could be wrong but I think she's done for good. She didn't do a good enough job obviously, and advisers helped her to fail.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jesus could have run against trump, healing the sick and forgiving loans left and right, and still the misinformationskiy would have overpowered him.

More than half of Americans are not literate enough to read medicine warning labels.

Its not Harris who failed the people. The problem started a decade ago.

Secede already.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Yup. As many failures as Harris has had, it doesn't come close to the amount of insanity it takes to justify a vote for Trump. Around half of the American voters have failed America and to me, there's no one else to blame.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More than half of Americans are not literate enough to read medicine warning labels.

to be fair what the fuck is an antihistamine containing hydroxyzine

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 19 hours ago

what the fuck is an antihistamine

Anti-allergy drug

Hydroxyzine

Histamine H1 Inhibitor, but what it does is a lot like an anesthetic

So it's an anti-allergy medication that also gives immediate relief from allergy symptoms

I'd hope most people who passed high school science could answer what an antihistamine is, and be able to google hydroxyzine, but yeah no I shouldn't

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Harris' political options are closed.

Harris managed to convince the DNC to forgo a primary and annoint them and then they lost the fucking election.

End.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago

Lost all THREE branches of government. A colossal failure of a campaign.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tbf, when Biden dropped out, there really wasn't a lot of time to organize 50 primaries according to each state's election rules and then get the result onto the general ballot in time for those deadlines.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

tbf, Biden shouldn't have run for re-election in the first place.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You got any sources for that? When Biden stepped down initially they were looking for who would replace him. His vice president / running mate was an obvious choice. I don't think I ever read anything about her trying to convince them. More then trying to convince her.

[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

-Former VPs

-From California

-Lost an election < You are here

-Ran for California Governor

-Ran for the presidency again

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

It worked for Tricky Dick.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The way Democrats are tacking to the right it's not far off

God, I hope not.

[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least Nixon did a few decent things, something that is absolutely impossible to say about Ronald Reagan. Although.. he did get seriously demented in his second term, maybe I’m a bit too negative.

[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If we look at Kamala Harris's political path, she has more similarities with Nixon than with Reagan. But we will have to wait and see if she runs for governor of California and then if she wins or loses.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She's welcome to try, but no universe exists in which Harris wins the Democratic primary. So unless the exact set of circumstance that led to her candidacy in 2024 are somehow repeated (fat chance), she has no path to the presidency.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean half the reason he was replaced is because he likely won't last until 2028.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

My bet is that he'll outlive Trump.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was joking because after his '28 run, she could get the same 'in' (though not really the same, because he wouldn't run again only to drop out).

Failed joke.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great, another useless figurehead. Kamala Harris took the Democratic nomination, and lost every single swing state, while her team fundraised telling us all she was going to win. She's never getting my vote again.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She should have been honest and told us she was going to lose all along.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Losing is our strategy!" - Dems

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True. They only won in 1992, 1996, 2008, 2012, and 2020. That's only 5 of the last 9 Presidential elections! And of course they lost 3 in a row from 1980 to 1988.

Democrats definitely are good at losing Presidential elections. The only party with a similar record is the Republican party.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

lol, 1992 was 32 years ago. Also the last time the ~~Redskins~~ Commanders won a Superbowl. 1996 was 28 years ago. Gen Z had not even been born.

Obama won 2008 and 2012 on a campaign of Hope for Change. A populist platform. That the Dems then squandered.

Biden didn't win 2020, people voted against Trump. And then the Biden admin squandered the high ground. And then failed to provide for the processes to select a new Democratic leader, and instead anointed his successor, who failed spectacularly.

But, if you can look at the last 32+ years, and rationalize it to yourself, nothing I have to add will sway your decision.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is some insane rationalization. 5 of the last 9, but the first 2 don't count because they were a long time ago, and then the next 2 don't count because it was a populist, and the last one didn't count because the other guy was worse.

Yeah, I guess if you look at it that way, the Democrats do nothing but lose....

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago
[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

She needs to fade off into obscurity.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Did she even really want to be president?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Hey don't you worry about it.. In the next three point five years you'll see an amazing growth and national prominence in the incredible third parties our "lefty" friends have been promoting as they have the time and inclination to do the hard work it takes to become a presidential contender.

Next Presidential Election when they're all like "I refuse to vote for either party" it'll be because [insert party name here] has been on fire in all 50 states and is ready to take down the duopoly! Go get 'em! Everyone hates the Dems, let's carpe the fuck outta this diem! Yeah!

Or, y'know, just bitch about everything for 3.5 years, do nothing, and fuck it up again. Whatever. I doubt there'll be an election anyway so - pressure's off!