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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I bought this before I found out Elon was crazy. Man has always been insane, we just weren't listening yet.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.

The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

Along those lines, the sticker shop from the story has since come out with one that says "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy."

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm just glad Tesla costs more than I can afford. Makes it very easy for the vast majority of us poor plebes to continue to not own one.

I so wanted a Chevy Bolt though.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. My lack of income saves me from a lot of scams I'm too poor for 😂

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 71 points 9 hours ago

I try not to judge Tesla drivers too much since plenty of them bought in before Elon went full mask-off in support of fascism, but if you own a Cybertruck you were 100% aware of what you were supporting when you bought it and I will absolutely judge you for that poor financial decision. Fucking Cyberdorks.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Let's be real - all the car companies are owned by terrible people. If it's not Elon, it's some other soulless capitalist who pushed subsidies and lower efficiency standards for mega trucks that speed up global warming just as we're supposed to be slowing it down.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 1 hour ago

This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.

However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.

It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 86 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

It may be unfair, but I've been increasingly judgemental of Tesla drivers, especially over the past 4 or 5 years. He used to just be a joke when he was tweeting edgelord stuff like his nightstand and trying to have images scrubbed from the internet of when he was still bald. Model S, model 3, model X (s3x, hur dur). Then I was made angry by the hyperloop and his distracting, unproductive impact of the way America thinks about mass transit. Then I got mad about Starlink, first as extremely expensive, dystopian sky litter. Then as a frightening glimpse at communication control in places with civil unrest/protest. Then he bought twitter, and did a hilariously bad job at running it. Installing a cartoonishly bad sign on his building and whatnot. Naming it something idiotic. Then helping bring Trump back from the dead. Then everything he has done in the 2024 election cycle. I don't know how people can stand to be associated with Elon and all the he represents in any way. It would be like driving around in a Jimmy Savile-mobile.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because people either don't care or don't care enough to pay more for another EV

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This isnt 2002.

EVs from other car makers are both cheaper, and better built, than any Tesla. The Market has left Teslas and their bullshit in the dust.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 25 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I acknowledge that it's unfair, but I'm judging you. Everyone driving in a Tesla looks like a rube at best, tacky and vain at least, or a contributor to fascism at worst. Perhaps you might consider a bumper sticker, haha.

[–] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 2 points 22 minutes ago

People that are buying the stickers are rubes. I don’t care what you think and anyone with an ounce of confidence shouldn’t either.

I’m convinced most of the anti Tesla rhetoric is coming from people who frankly are not Tesla (or any new car) customers anyway. If you’re actually in the market for an EV and want to compare range, charging network, dashboard UI+phone app quality (yes, all standard automakers are shit at software development, maybe hire people in SV), cost, vehicle options, maintenance + repair options (Tesla service isn’t run by the garbage dealership model and is actually good service and fairly priced) — then Tesla has been a clear winner for many years.

Feel free to go back to your dealership and waste half a day trying to buy a car. Every one else is still so far behind and if you get it, you get it.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure that if major stockholders of the other auto brands were in the spotlight as much as Musk is, we'd see that they're just as terrible

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

First off, absolutely. None of these CEOs got where they are by acts of kindness. But there in lies the rub. Musk is in the spotlight. In a very real way, with his purchase of Twitter, he has actually become the spotlight itself. And he is vocally championing hateful rhetoric, and he is bankrolling an existential threat to America/democracy/the planet. The icon that is Tesla is inexorably linked to Musk, and lately Musk is shaping up to be America's Goebbels.

[–] LimeZest@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 hours ago

The stickers do help, I have seen one before and then I remember how it was exciting in the early days that someone was very publicly making a big push to introduce a viable alternative to internal combustion engines. We know a lot more now about Musk and Tesla than we did back when the first cars rolled out. A lot of the early Tesla owners probably meant well and it doesn’t help that nearly all the infrastructure (at least in my area) is car-only and hostile towards other forms of transit.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Ah, back when full self driving was only negative four years into the future.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

He pushed Hyperloop such that they build more roads btw. since other forms of transit were just fine or however it went back then. Goal achieved, idiots loved him and argued for this nonsense a lot.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 25 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It was an attempt to derail California (and other) High Speed Rail.

Why would you build HSR if there's something way faster/better/cheaper, you just need to wait 5 years? You're going to look really dumb if you spend tens of billions on infrastructure intended to last more than a century, and then it's obsolete before it's complete.

Similar story with Toyota perpetually claiming to have amazing batteries 3-5 years away, making every EV look like an expensive waste with no resale value.

And a hydrogen economy, small nuclear reactors, or fusion power being 5/10/20 years away, removing the need to invest in transmission and generation.

A major paradigm shift being right around the corner makes people choose short-term solutions, because you want to wait for the new thing to arrive before investing in 'old tech'.

The problem is most of it is lies, perpetuated by those selling the short-term-fix old tech.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes that was it!

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 12 hours ago

Exactly. He's the poster child for a virus that is killing our host. Beyond unhelpful, and well into counterproductive.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 89 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Elon has always been crazy.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 105 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

He used to be better at keeping his mouth shut.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 64 points 16 hours ago

He used to have less airtime

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago

If you listened (as most of us in tech did) he's been fucking batshit since the PayPal days.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 42 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

He left trumps orbit last time he was president because Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Now he doesn't give a fuck about that or similar things.

He's definitely more crazy / things changed.

[–] superkret 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

He used to depend on that climate money and press for his car business.
Now he can shovel tax money directly into his own pocket, so he doesn't need to pretend anymore.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

He never cared about climate change change, he just cared about his company getting bigger.

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago

I dont remember a time where I both knew of him and thought he was a sane or rational person.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 82 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

I wonder if I could make money selling body kits to make your Tesla look like a different car... 🤔

"Hey... Does that Prius look a bit off?"

Cybertruck with a Prius shell drives by

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 26 minutes ago

warthog shell for the cybertruck.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Cybertruck with a cardboard box over it, full Snake.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago


...
"s'just a box"

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Still better looking than the original

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 15 points 16 hours ago

The new Prius actually looks pretty good too.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Debadging Teslas is definitely a thing. Back when they were rare, nobody could clock the model without the logo.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

It could be this generation’s Lamborghini Fiero mod.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 14 hours ago

If you buy a Tesla, you deserve all the ridicule you get

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I live in an area where it seems like 50% of the cars are Teslas. Half my neighbors have them. Only stickers I’ve ever seen on a Tesla are “Student Driver”

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Hello from across the Potomac! You're spot on with your observations.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just driving your Tesla without trying to apologize for it would be a lot more dignified.

[–] scops@reddthat.com 20 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I bought mine in 2019 back when Musk just seemed like a dorky edgelord. I'm definitely not going to buy a new car just because Tesla's CEO is a tool, though when I AM ready, it's certainly not going to be another Tesla.