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As many users seek alternatives to X, rival social network Mastodon says that its official app downloads are up 47% on iOS.

Mastodon founder Eugen Rochko says downloads on Android are also up 17%, while total monthly sign-ups rose approximately 27% to 90,000.

The open-source X rival functions much like its competitor, the site formerly known as Twitter, on the outside. However, unlike the centralized Twitter, Mastodon consists of thousands of different social networks, which are integrated into a web it calls the "fediverse."

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[–] pagenotfound@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Proud to be part of that 47%

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fantastic! I'm reducing my dependency on for profit entities every day, and federation is a great means to that end. Let's welcome those moving over during the exodus!

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Make sure to actually understand how those "non-profit" websites and services are functioning.

It costs money to power servers and to maintain them. Most of the fediverse instances like to claim they are run on donations and so forth. But... think about how angry people get at the idea of tipping for ANYTHING and then wonder how many of those are throwing significant cash at your favorite lemmy or mastodon instance per month.

Everyone is always shocked when they find out how social media or a "free" vpn or whatever is funded and where there information is going. But hey, I am sure it will be completely different this time.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 25 points 2 days ago

The guy who runs the instance I’m on sends out a statement every month, detailing how much he’s received in donations, what everything has cost, and how much there is leftover. Accounting for a small buffer to allow for emergencies, he donates the excess to Alzheimer’s research. We’re a Pritchett focus instance, so everyone’s happy with that.

I’ve paid far more to my Masto admin than I ever did to Twitter.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

You can be against the US's tipping culture while at the same time being someone who donates to things lol

But yeah, definitely. For a lot of these things the funding has to be coming from somewhere and there's no way donations are enough.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

hink about how angry people get at the idea of tipping for ANYTHING and then wonder how many of those are throwing significant cash at your favorite lemmy or mastodon instance per month.

a) it's not significant amounts, it's quite cheap, per user, to run lemmy, e.g. lemm.ee is one of the bigger instances and costs 200 Euro a month, b) tipping 20% on a bill that doesn't even include any service is not the same as donating to a service you like. This is more like a patreon which doesn't lock anything for non-donating users.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's quite cheap, per user, to run lemmy, e.g. lemm.ee is one of the bigger instances and costs 200 Euro a month,

storage requirements will only increase (attachments, linked website images), unless you are regularly deleting content and so contributing to link rot

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

lemm.ee currently even proxies links to external images, sunaurus identified some issues with it, storage wasn't one of them. Storage requirements are going to look quite differently if you're lemmynsfw.com but it's not particularly hard to get enough donations to afford a couple extra TB a month. Much, much cheaper than paying admins an actual wage where I think the actual scaling pain will be.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

Make sure to actually understand how those “non-profit” websites and services are functioning.

Generally speaking if you aren't the customer then you are the product. Individual Lemmy and Mastadon instances are getting around this for now because they are small enough that their operational costs can be covered by the ideologically motivated instance admins and users. If Lemmy or Mastadon ever gains wide popularity this will change.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

But hey, I am sure it will be completely different this time.

Exactly.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

iOS friends, check out the Mastodon client Ice Cubes.

It's free (beer and speech) and it's very good IMO.

Also, after you settle on a server, consider setting up a recurring donation to your admin to help with server costs. The way I see it, it's that or ads and enshitification.

[–] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Ice Cubes is a fantastic Mastodon client!

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Does anyone know good people to follow? I'd rather not join Bluesky.

[–] GravelPieceOfSword@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

I learned to follow hashtags, not people on mastodon myself..

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I joined bluesky because the weather group I followed on Twitter moved there, so deleted twitter and follow them on BLuesky now. Is there a reason not to join bluesky?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not right now, except that it's going to follow the same cycle as everything else: good to users at first, good to shareholders at the end.

Build an account on Mastodon if you want to escape the cycle and tangle with different problems ;)

It really is nice there; people seem to like talking to each other about varied things, but it is smaller than Twitter so you may need to be on mastodon for some things and Bluesky for others you can't get on mastodon

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never really used twitter for more than weather lol, so I'll make a mastodon account, but I'll be as active on it as BS. Just don't get the appeal of the format. Probably why I'm so much more active here than anywhere else.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Saaame. I'm jut on Mastadon now to boost ti's numbers and support the fediverse.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't know why, I never really got twitter. But Mastodon was addictive for me. I always want to see what people are posting

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

Hm... Maybe if I open the app more often I'll get to that point?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would say no* but the asterisk has a few paragraphs involving funding sustainability, cryptobro involvement, and dubious decentralization.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ah, damn, now I wish more would have gone to mastodon.

[–] gladflag@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Corporate vs. community. Bluesky is technically backed by an open protocol but it’s still controlled by a large corporation. A bad actor (read: Elon) could make it shit.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The biggest reason is that it's centralized.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

No, just a personal choice.

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Don't know who exactly you are interested in, here are some random known accounts:

Regarding individuals, I'm following a bunch of software developpers. I'm mostly interested in topics, hence I prefer Lemmy by far.

[–] Matty@lemmy.autism.place 1 points 1 day ago

There's Fedi.Directory which you pick whatever category of your interest and it list various Fedi account. It's mostly Mastodon based-account but you get couple other non-mastodon account like PeerTube for example

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Good to hear at least some upside for Mastadon from the recent rise in Bluesky users.

Hopefully this trend will continue and and Mastodon can retain at least a solid percentage of those why try it.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Considering that every post about Mastodon has supporters who get the spelling wrong, it might be a little much to expect the general public to figure it out. Bluesky is pretty much the VHS to Mastodon's Betamax.

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Appreciate your leaving one of them so as not to ruin my comment! (Not a sir, though. Retired schoolmarm here.)

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Apologies for calling you a sir, miss!

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's good news. Odds are that some of those people will go back to closed media platforms after ~2 months; but the ones who stay help Mastodon and the Fediverse to grow.