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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Rabble Rabble intensifies...

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By being the most violent, sociopathic, greedy underhanded, incestuous back stabbers of all the people who lived anywhere near them.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

🎵One of these things is not like the others 🎵

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago
[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

power doesn't automatically equal selfishness. you can take it away from them and do something that is good for all of humanity with it.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Town Chaos is better than TK.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The more likely scenario after the takeover is animal farm, not utopia.

[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 62 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They took it! At the tip of a sword!

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Against the neck of the monarch. Unless you are forcing an agreement from the same your protest means nothing.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm so happy the first comment is someone getting the reference

[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"I'll do it with a lance."

The irony is that the Normans were far more likely to be using spears instead of swords, which are more like the lances that William was using to become a noble. Nobles would have carried swords, but they were status symbols and treated with religious reverence. They would only be used in battle if the spear was thrown or broken.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Spears are the timeless OG weapon.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

They were the great equalizer prior to Gunpowder.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 31 points 2 days ago

“There’s nothing more respectable than an ancient evil” — Voltaire

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

By convincing the dumber sections of society they were worth it. Same deal as today

Throughout most of history, it's had nothing to do with manipulating stupid people and everything to do with specialization in violence.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

More ignorant likely, not dumber.

Dumb is a trait, ignorance is a state.

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I'm fighting back. Guess who can effort more weapons."

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Guess who just armed the rebels. We were taught in the military that if we are armed, and run into local unarmed resistance, try to deescalate the situation. Unless we are outnumbered 5 to 1. At that point we were to withdraw to a more defendable position, because if they got violent, we were all dead and we just armed the civilians.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We were taught in the military that if we are armed, and run into local unarmed resistance, try to deescalate the situation.

I know because I've discussed and seen it innumerable times, but it always gives me a feeling of absurdity being reminded that the RoE for modern militaries in most combat zones is stricter than it is for US police.

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[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless we are outnumbered 5 to 1

So as few as five unarmed people can take a trained, armed soldier? I would’ve thought that ratio should be higher. Good to know.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The great advantage of guns is the ability to kill at a distance. If you're close enough to talk without screaming at the top of your lungs, guns lose a lot (though not all) of their utility. And even specialized martial artists will tell you that being outnumbered, even just by a small amount, is an incredible disadvantage in a close-up fight.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe I’m overestimating how much a gunshot wound incapacitates a person. My thinking was that one hit per person anywhere would take that person out of a fight. That means that it would take at least (magazine size) + 1 people to overwhelm an armed shooter (who is good at aiming). Aiming should be easy, since they’re running toward you and probably not good at evasive maneuvers.

But all of my theory stems from shooter games, so it’s probably not worth much :D

[–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Depends on where a person is shot. If it doesn't hit anything important, a shooting victim can go without noticing the wound even a day after or so. If it hits something important, the person shot will drop on the spot.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

You need to watch The MythBusters episode of "don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

The results were rather surprising. Also, if you ever take martial arts training, knives are considered incredibly deadly weapons and close quarters.

https://youtu.be/ckz7EmDxhtU?si=qZQof3vXXEB7JBmG

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

A gunshot wound can vary wildly in terms of incapacitation. Depends on how determined the person is. A single bullet can kill a person, but usually not instantly. There's something call the 'Mozambique drill' or 'Failure to stop drill' in which, to ensure someone goes down, you fire two shots to center mass, and then one to the head. That's a pistol drill though.

More importantly, though, at a certain closeness it actually gets harder to keep your aim on a person with a full-sized rifle. And once someone is close enough to take a few long, quick, desperate lunges and grab at the barrel of your rifle (ie the kind of range you'd be in to talk to someone), you're on very bad ground.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

One of their ancestors was a violent capable killer.

Just sell it to someone and the entire system becomes legitimate

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

More like the monarch fought for it then gave it to their friends.

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[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

As cgp Grey said, bigger army diplomacy.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lot of the medieval nobility were just Roman landowners at the time of the of the Western Empire. Sure their government collapsed, but they still owned the land amd had theeans to enforce that ownership. Which is why France had the right idea to liberate all those heads of state from their holdings 230 years ago

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