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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago

See? This. This is why I don't trust my safety to electronic systems. The fancy computer controlled locks and latches are great when they work. When they don't, shit like this happens.

At least most cars still have a physical connection between the door handle and the locking mechanism. Not Tesla, for no good goddamned reason.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

That one’s a deal breaker. Never getting in an Tesla again. And yes, that means a lot of taxi cabs 🤷‍♂️🙄

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Nice

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Expect those investigations to quietly go away or turn up nothing in about two months from now.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I doubt it as that would be a very bad look

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

If there’s anything the incoming administration is unconcerned about, it’s the optics of any decisions they make.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Because the team that headlines with this guy giving bjs to microphones and bragging about sexual assault is worried how things look.

[–] liuther9@feddit.nl 2 points 16 hours ago
[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"when a crash disabled its electronic doors."

Female AI voice: Please stay in your seats with your seat belts on until Elon has been notified of this incident.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

what a metaphor for America

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well they don't say where it was but I'm assuming it's Canada since a Canada post employee saved one by smashing the window with a big pole so she could crawl out.

[–] hefty4871@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

It happened in downtown Toronto.

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[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev 115 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Killed by the department of efficiency

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's an apt analogue for what we should all expect from the DOGE; burning to death while everyone watches in terror.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Holy fuck, I never registered that that was the acronym for it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, it was the whole point.

When Trump first said that, I wondered why the hell he's talking about Musk asking for a position title that never existed, and then he tweeted out some BS AI gen of him with the title 'DOGE' on a nameplate in front of him.

He basically is a 13 year old who never grew up.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Find a good lawyer and sue the living shit out of Tesla and "Leon." I agree with the majority of the comments.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

We should rebrand him as Emperor Cleon (Day)

[–] aeharding@vger.social 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my neck of the woods a couple weeks ago five people burned to death in a Tesla. Apparently called 911 from inside the car too. No national news on this either.

https://www.veronapress.com/townnews/highway/update-on-nov-1-town-of-verona-crash-that-killed-five-people/article_39070b78-9ad8-11ef-8de9-a7707b602caa.html

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who could see this coming, other than literally everybody

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't believe there isn't an NHTSA regulation about manual egress from an unpowered vehicle. This is just bonkers.

[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

There are manual releases but they're hidden. They need to be more obvious because these cars are rented to people and obviously the owners aren't taking the time to figure out where they're at.

I would also think just having secondary power packs in each door would help in the event power is cut to ensure the doors can continue to function for a few minutes while also a speaker could explain how to use the emergency release if none of the doors are working.

All this added complexity and cost isn't worth it to me, manual doors just make sense for so many reasons.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Or, how about this: it’s a door, have it work like every other car door for the last 70 years.

Redesigning stuff to make it “cool” and “futuristic” is fucking stupid and is clearly not safe. Doors have handles, the handles are pulled to open the door. Keep it simple.

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[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

When I rode as a passanger in a Tesla Model 3, the owner told me not to use the big pull handle because it was the manual release, and instead to use the button at the top of the grab bar.

I don't know about the other models but the manual release was a more obvious way to open the door than the intended way.

[–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Only for the front seats, and on something like the Y not all models even have manual releases in the back. The ones that do have them covered with a mat and no indication where they are.

On the model Y you need to removal a speaker grill to manually release the doors in the back.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 77 points 1 day ago (18 children)

This is what it says on their website. Hope you've got the link handy if you're in a crash, and also that you're not in one that doesn't have this...

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

make everything electronic because Elon thinks it is super cool

put very inefficiently placed manual overrides because it was a bad idea

Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.

I think I see a problem.

Also: that's waaaay too many steps for an emergency. Imagine trying to dismantle the door trim when you have a concussion.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 81 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Look it's very simple if you get in a crash and are on fire.

Stop. Drop. Roll. Remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket. Press the red tab to remove the access door. Pull the mechanical release cable forward. Remember that not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. Die.

Rolls right off the tongue. If you're still in trouble call 0118 999 88199 9119 725 3.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what it looks like when they're legally forced to do something, but still don't want to do it, and their customers are idiots who can afford to pay for redundant features.

So you know, goverment inefficiency. /s

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This reminds me... I need a glass breaking hammer for safety in my non Tesla car.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They might all have one but if not, get one that has a seat belt cutter on it. And keep it in the front console, not anywhere in the back or in the glove compartment.

I knew someone (an acquaintance, we weren't close) who died in a crash because their seatbelt got stuck and they couldn't get out. They had one of those cutter hammer combos but it was in the back seat. Absolutely nightmarish.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Also fix it to the console with a clip. Can’t use the cutter when it is out of reach because the car flipped over. And buy more than one, driver could become incapacitated after a crash while the backseat passengers are stuck.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but mechanical car door handles aren't "Cool." You don't want to have a car that isn't cool, right?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Some GenZ kids were talking about how cool rolling up a window with a handle was and wished it was in cars again. It was refreshing to hear.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When electric windows became a thing I considered it a downgrade because it meant that I couldn't roll down my window when the engine was off.

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What fucking idiot builds fail-deadly electric door controls into a very flammable car

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 day ago

Anything owned by Muskrat

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Ah when you try to reinvent the the wheel, fail, and then kill people with it

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 267 points 2 days ago (53 children)

When I first learned that Teslas (and almost all other EV's) have electronic only doors, I knew this kind of situation would happen.
I hope this gets laws enacted that force manufacturers to install mechanical latches on all of their vehicles. I know Teslas have manual overrides on their front doors, but the rear doors still have this issue.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago

So happy my car is not a tesla.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Always have an emergency tool in your car to break your windows in case this shit happens to you. Even if you're in a car not designed by a god damn moron.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 162 points 2 days ago (47 children)

There is a manual override in Tesla cars but the feature is not widely publicized, experts say.

Tesla isn't the only culprit here. Any manufacturer that makes cars with electric doors should be required to also have a prominent and easily reachable manual override, instead of hiding a tiny lever underneath the armrest or on the floor, or behind the person's seat on the pillar somewhere, or any fucking place that isn't where you would expect a door handle to be.

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