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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The people that get me are the ones who brake and you have no idea what they're doing, then they stop and you still don't know what they're doing, then they turn, and halfway through the turn they start to signal. What do they think signalling is for?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

It gives them the moral and legal right to do whatever it is they're doing. Don't you know that your* signal light is a magical "you have to let me" charm? And by "your" I mean "just theirs".

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ah this is the London Hackney Cab flourish. It's kind of like yelling 'Yeehaw' as the bull leaps into the air and somehow you are still attached.

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

If somebody breaks or slows down for no apparent reason, with nobody in front of them, I honk. They are hindering traffic.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Do you return your shopping cart to the corral unprompted?

⬜ YES

⬜ NO

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No. The corral is a prompt.

I'll take mine back into the store if there's no corral.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Answering No is one of the few exceptions I make in my stance against the death penalty. One strike, no trial, instant death sentence to be carried out by the nearest available citizen using the most convenient method as picked by the executioner.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The aforementioned shopping cart.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

We've invented the electric chair already. The electric shopping cart should be easy.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

I’m disabled - walking and standing are very difficult and painful for me - leaving the shopping cart as near as possible to the disabled bay without it being an obstruction is the right thing to do. You can immediately get the support of something to lean on as soon as possible after leaving the car.

Just something to consider. I now submit to your judgment for your death penalty :D

[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This is a completely artificial US problem that has been completely solved in Germany and many other countries by requiring a 1€ deposit to unlock the cart and returning it when you relock it. So, complain to the store for failing to use basic countermeasures.

[–] nicerdicer 3 points 3 weeks ago

It was solved for a brief time. Now people have these plastic coins you sometimes recieve as a promotional gift and since it is not a real coin, people stop putting the carts to the corral. You can witness this every time holidays are coming up and people are stocking their groceries. And the culprit is always middle-aged Karens who also don't indicate when leaving the parking lot in their SUV.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

They have stopped doing that in Norway, at least here. Not sure if it was a corona effect or if they thought it wasnt worth it in terms of customers either shopping somewhere else or shopping less because they take a small shopping basket instead.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I see virtually no one not returning them, but I'm sure it happens.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I never even knew that in other countries you could just grab one without putting a coin. Absolutely insane.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I return my cart to the corral and any other carts I see along the way.

Even if other people are using them.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Florida drivers; especially Miami. I use my turn signal every time; but I basically have to have ESP of other cars on the road. I drive my car like it's a motorcycle, always looking for a way out or around - because it's so wild here.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

In Miami, many will interpret a turn signal as a challenge of dominance.

"Oh, you're trying to get in front of me? Well fuck you I'm going to speed up!"

Nevermind that Fuckface was going 5mph under the speed limit in the left lane. How dare you be in front of him?!?

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's really not that hard.

-Indicate
-Check
-Maneuver
Done.

[–] Oachkatzlschwoaf@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In my country we're thought to first check then indicate, I think the purpose is to not give drivers next to you a heart attack

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That makes a lot of sense and should be recommended for all drivers.

I'm realizing that i also do a pre-check but it's just part of maintaining my spacial awareness so I didn't consider it to be part of this process. lol

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
  • Done.
  • Maneuver
  • Indicate (optional)
  • Check

is the far more common order.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's unfair to BMW drivers. Those don't come standard with turn signals.

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

And no one wants to pay for the turn signal subscription service!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No one in this town uses their fucking turn signals and it's infuriating. I can't tell you how many times I've almost hit someone who suddenly just breaks and turns in front of me.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

You a simple way to tell if someone is an asshole, shopping cart returns. The same people I have observed the same people who don't return their cart also don't use their blinkers.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The entire state of Massachusetts is full of psychopaths

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

That would explain my first experience driving in Massachusetts. We came down from New Hampshire to pick up a family member at Logan. At one point, I got onto the freeway from an entrance ramp on the right, into stop-and-go traffic, with about 1/4 mile to the left exit ramp I needed to take to the airport. I put on my signal; immediately somebody let me merge. Signal again; immediate merge into the middle lane. Signal and merge into the left lane, again right away. I'd heard about Massholes, so this was perplexing.

Now I understand: They were dazed and confused by the strange, blinking light!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They're called Massholes for a reason.

Even the example in that link agrees.

[–] Harrk@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I try not to judge people too much on it, sometimes it just happens to slip the mind which is fair enough. The people who don't indicate at roundapoints however... It's not just about safety, but letting others know if they can enter or not. By indicating you help one another and it takes minimal effort to do so.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Like not putting the cart back its a sign of someone who has no concept of a social contract. Sure you may miss one every now and then but very few people around here use them at all. To the point you can't trust someone else who does. In the US its because of a complete lack of formal education on driving. Drivers ED where it still exists is simply terrible and makes no effort to fail anyone for fear of being sued.

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hanlon’s razor: never attribute to malice what could just as easily be attributed to incompetence.

People are more likely to be morons than they are assholes.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hanlon didn't encounter BMW owners.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's interesting that this seems to be an international constant.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They say death and taxes are the only the constants in life. I would like to add "BMW drivers not using the turn signals."

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have a theory. OK, some people simply can't drive, we all know it. But I noticed when I visited Nashville and drove a rental car, suddenly my ability to use turn signals went gone. And I'm religious about it, signalling is a reflex, don't think about it.

Around my little town, where no one is a visitor, everyone uses their signals. OTOH, go to the nearest city and visit downtown, especially on an event day like a graduation, people are goddamned maniacs! No signals, driving the wrong way on one-way streets, speeding, creeping, all that.

Next time you catch someone not signalling, have a look at their plate. Out of state? Hell, some states like Mississippi will even tell if they're out of county. See what you see. Note: Plates may not mean much if you're in a city that pulls unfamiliar drivers. Bet my theory's solid near airports!

My little idea holds up on country highways. Everyone knows exactly where they are and where they're going, be shocked to see a single missed signal. Worst you see is some hesitant on/off signaling if they're unsure of the upcoming turn. (Hey, it all looks the same from the highway.)

tl;dr: Drivers unfamiliar with the area are mostly the problem.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry. No. I live outside of an Indiana town with a population of less than 60,000 and not a big tourist draw. Almost no one uses their turn signals here either in town or on the rural roads. The only difference is they break harder before they turn on the rural roads.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They break harder? I'm not familiar with this term, is it a regional thing?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They slam on their breaks even faster.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, I was thinking of the definition of break, "a noticeable change in direction," not brake, "to slow or stop by or as if by a brake." Got it!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh, my fault. I always confuse those two.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

A lot of people do, it just got me in this case because the meaning of break lined up with the action of turning onto county roads, so I thought it was some special thing.