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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 187 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean, it could be a manual photoshop job. Just because it’s not AI doesn’t mean it’s real.

But also the detector is probably wrong - it’s likely an AI image using a different model than the detector was trained to detect.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I mean, it could be a manual photoshop job.

It could, but the double spiral in the shell indicates AI to me. Snail shells don't grow like that. If it was a manual job, they would have used a picture of a real shell.

Edit: plus the cat head looks weird where it connects to the head, and the markings don't look right to me.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Agreed. The aggressive depth of field is another smoking gun that usually indicates an AI image.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Snail shells don't grow like that but this is clearly a snat, not a snail.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Even cnailshells would have to adhere to the basic laws of conchology though

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also the fact that the grain on the side of the shell is perpendicular to the grain on the top, and it changes where the cat ear comes up in front of it.

Very telltale sign of AI is a change of pattern in something when a foreground object splits it.

Not saying it's always a guarantee, but it's a common quirk and it's pretty easy to identify.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Your reference is ancient and dusty and it makes me feel old. Stop it.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago (3 children)

There were a lot of really good images like that well before AI. Anyone remember Photoshop Friday?

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's a sort of... Sheen, to a lot AI images. Obviously you can prompt this away if you know what you're doing, but its developing a bit of a look to my eye when people don't do that.

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[–] nicerdicer 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's a snat. They are not easy to catch, because they are fast. Also, they never land on their shell.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't get it. Maybe it's right? Maybe a human made this?

The picture doesn't have to be "real", it just has to be non-AI. Maybe this was made in Blender and Photoshop or something.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Check the snail house. The swirl has two endings. Definitely AI

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[–] rdri@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Or maybe your expectations from ai detection are too high.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

…you know people made fake pictures before image generation, right?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They made fake pictures before computers existed too.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This obviously can’t be true, how did they do it without Photoshop? /s

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[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago
[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ignorant Americans, never even heard of the common snailcat

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Where the fuck are you from that they aren’t called catsnails? Odd. Been catsnails here since I can remember.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

I wanted to get a cat but I discovered I was allergic to the slime trail.

[–] DrMorose@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong."

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[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago

That's a normal housecat. Not sure what people are confused about

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Are we all looking at the same snussy?

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We get them a lot around here. They don't make for good pets, but they keep the borogoves at bay.

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

Which is great, honestly. Borogoves themselves are fine, but it's not worth the risk letting them get all mimsy.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 5 days ago

No spooky eyes, no extra limbs, no eery smile? - 100% real, genuine photograph! 👍

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

I have two of those cats. I still can't catch them when its time to go to bed.

That is a weird looking rabbit

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

honestly, its pretty good, and it still works if I use a lower resolution screenshot without metadata (I haven't tried adding noise, or overlaying something else but those might break it). This is pixelwave, not midjourney though.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

It's not, look at the shell

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Such a cute kitty snail! Can you post just the picture?

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[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

You have never seen the all elusive catsnail? Bummer you should look harder.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Clearly AI is on the verge of taking over the world.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Well duh it detects AI generated images that are at scale and that snail cat is way too small for it

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 7 points 5 days ago

It's a real valid picture in png format.

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[–] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

There are a bunch of reasons why this could happen. First, it's possible to "attack" some simpler image classification models; if you get a large enough sample of their outputs, you can mathematically derive a way to process any image such that it won't be correctly identified. There have also been reports that even simpler processing, such as blending a real photo of a wall with a synthetic image at very low percent, can trip up detectors that haven't been trained to be more discerning. But it's all in how you construct the training dataset, and I don't think any of this is a good enough reason to give up on using machine learning for synthetic media detection in general; in fact this example gives me the idea of using autogenerated captions as an additional input to the classification model. The challenge there, as in general, is trying to keep such a model from assuming that all anime is synthetic, since "AI artists" seem to be overly focused on anime and related styles...

[–] HeckGazer@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago

It has been 0 days since classified military gene research has been leaked by interrogating ai detecting models

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