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“(With) today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all practical purposes, there are virtually no limits on what the president can do. It’s a fundamentally new principle and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the United States.”

Throughout his address, Biden underscored the gravity of the moment, emphasizing that the only barrier to the president’s authority now lies in the personal restraint of the officeholder. He warned vehemently against the prospect of Trump returning to power, painting a stark picture of the dangers such an outcome could pose.

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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Biden Blasts Supreme Court" could have a whole new meaning after their latest ruling

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 117 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (32 children)

Dumbass and spineless Biden and Democrats. The supreme court literally just started that America had a king but this dumbass party would rather take some stupid fucking high road bullshit instead of playing the game to ensure the fascist fuck around and find out.

They don't even have to resort to assassinations, they could really tell the IRS to audit 501(c) and remove their status from the churches and bullshit Republican charities, or tell the justice department to focus on domestic terrorism and corruption to fuck over Republican groups and representatives, or tell the FDA to allow the sale of raw milk.

Play the god damn game and be the fucking king if these corrupt justice says there's a king.

[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (19 children)

That is a guaranteed path to fascism.

I'm not gonna say that the chances are good, but if they refuse, and win, and then walk back the changes, maybe fascism can be averted.

If they walk into using these tools and normalise them even more, then when the other party gets the government again, you get a republican fascist, and if the other party never gets the government again, it's because you got a "democrat" fascist.

Don't race to the bottom, everyone loses there.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, you use the fascist power granted by fascists to abuse the fascists who granted it in the first place. Power is the only thing that stops fascists. Start with a few nights in a black site for the justices who thought granting absolute power to the president was OK. If scotus already accepts fascism from their team it's already too late for your plan to work.

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I honestly don't know why anyone is strategising as if they're on the same side as dems or any politician. I'm not even convinced we have a common enemy in Trump, because they don't seem serious about beating him.

The question you should ask when voting is "Who is my preferred enemy?" Biden won't abuse the carte blanche immunity from criminal prosecution? Great, sounds like he's the weaker enemy, so vote for him. Force him to keep the position he clearly doesn't want. Force him to disappoint his base for another four years.

While he's doing that, get to work building alternatives that meet people's needs from the bottom up and wean them off of this criminal system, to undermine it and prepare people to thrive as it crumbles.

The great thing about this political theory of change is that it's the same regardless of who's in power. It decouples you from the capricious, disempowering shifts of electoral politics.

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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I like how every single one of these comments are blaming Biden and the Democrats for a supreme court ruling that the conservatives and Republicans enacted. How about we put the blame on the people who are actually doing the terrible things?

This is why the Republicans keep winning btw, because they're united.

[–] swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago

Why doesn't Biden just illegally overturn this ruling? He has immunity

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 23 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Watched the debate, this is a verbatim quote I pulled from the transcript, Biden: "And if I’m elected, I’m going to restore Roe v. Wade." Why does he have to wait for re-election?

I expect Reps. to strip rights and will always blame them for that. The flip side of that is I expect Dems. to restore them, which isn't happening and so they should be criticized. It's just always "we'll fix it in the future" which is why I put the biden quote in.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Because the Republicans control Congress, and at this point only an act of Congress can restore it.

It comes down to this: a Republican president would veto any abortion protection law, but a Democratic president would pass it. But the law has to get to his desk first.

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[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 18 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If you don't put down a rabid dog and get bitten, I'm not going to blame the dog.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 303 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Then fucking do something about it Joe! The DNC has been little more than passive observers to the raise of fascism.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 80 points 5 days ago (23 children)

Since we're talking about a SCOTUS ruling, it would be on Congress to pass legislation.

And to follow up on @teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world's comment, the Democratic National Committee is a private party organization that supports Democratic candidates in elections. They have nothing to do with passing legislation.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 109 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's on Biden to personally demonstrate to SCOTUS just how dangerous the ruling was.

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[–] urfavlaura@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

okay assasinate Trump, you're legally allowed to do that now

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Biden no longer has the moral high ground to pretend this would be illegal.

Surpreme Court just literally said he can do whatever he wants. Everything he does is legal.

So use those powers to actually want to "save Democracy" if you believe it's truly in danger. Or would that make your carrot disappear of forcing people to vote for you?

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 230 points 5 days ago (91 children)

He’s so pissed about it he’s gonna do absolutely nothing!

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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 120 points 4 days ago (24 children)

If only he were in some position of power to do something about it hmmmmmm.

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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 107 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Ok Biden, time to do something about these fascists. They just gave you everything you need to squash the threat, on a silver platter fit for a king. It’s time to process the new information, understand the powers granted to you, and act - are you up to this task? Please don’t let America down, because you have asserted yourself as the only one who can now do anything about it.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Never underestimate establishment Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

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[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

Welp he's just gonna wait till let trump be the first to use it. We are still cooked. 🤡🔫

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 167 points 5 days ago (19 children)

So, Biden can order seal team 6 to permanently fix the Supreme Court by removing 6 and leaving 3 alive. Gotcha.

After all, those 6 argued that he has the right to do so.

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 81 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Democrats will continue to give sternly worded remarks all the way up to their appointment with the gallows, so brave!

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The 18th century British The British

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Gotta say i read that to the tune of "there are no cats in america"

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Biden needs to exercise his expanded rights as President to save America by removing agents from all branches of the government who have been working to undermine America. Congress members, Supreme Court Justices, and Presidential candidates with ties to Russia or far-right nationalists should be removed by any means necessary. We’re essentially at war with Russia and we’ve been allowing foreign agents to work against us from inside our country. Take the gloves off and remove those people, they’re trash people who will do it first if/when they get into power next. They’re pretty clearly broadcasting their plans to turn the US into a dictatorship and the SCOTUS just handed them the power to do it the next time they win an election.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Public: So do something about it.

Biden: I-i-i-if I do that, I'll be a baka.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 86 points 5 days ago (20 children)

Biden: The Supreme Court ruled I can do ANYTHING I WANT!

Also Biden: So I will do NOTHING! Please Vote kthxbai!

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[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 62 points 4 days ago (16 children)

What is to stop Biden from cancelling the upcoming election?

Being now his powers are effectively unchecked, couldn't he just call off the election as an official act. Rather than stupid shit like ordering assassination or deploying the military, just say "I'm cancelling the election until such time this ruling is overturned and a constitutional amendment is enacted that states that the president is not immune from criminal prosecution"

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't need to cancel the elections. He just needs to wait until after the conventions, when congress and the supreme court are in recess. And then he issues an executive order barring convicted felons from holding federal office.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 83 points 5 days ago (55 children)

Wow it's a shame he's a fucking pussy who won't author an 'official act' to oust the supreme court.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 66 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Trump's election had an enormous impact that seems to have survived his Presidency, and will continue to do so for decades to come.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 days ago

Kill them! Do it!

[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

No kings but us.

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